Hidden camera tells true story of how veteran died after calling for help, gasping for air

Probably because our corrupt system won't hold the people really responsible which is the owners of the facility. Put a few of them in jail and set a real example.

 

http://www.hospitalbuddysystem.com/

I doubt that. They're not liable for having a 5 minute response time when your death is a minute away, but I don't think an armed officer can savor a donut while someone's being strangled ten feet in front of him.

 

Yes they can. There's already been a SCOTUS ruling on it.

 

Cite, please.

 

How is it that so many folks don't know this already? In short a cops only job is to gather evidence and make arrests. They are not there to protect individuals.

For some reason the link isn't copying properly. Look up DeShaney v. Winnebago County. Castle Rock v. Gonzales. And a few others.

 

The ownership are civally liable but only the woman is guilty of a felony in my opinion

 

Not being a lawyer I would not know.

 

Doesn't explain the laughing

 

I never did. Oaths don't really mean anything. You take it off a honor system. There is no legal backing behind a oath.

 

Me either but thats my guess

 

My research, though hardly exhaustive, indicates that what you know, just ain't so.

DeShaney and Gonzales both invoked a federal statute and a constitutional provision which have no apparent application to the scenario I described. Moreover, in neither case were government agents firsthand witnesses to a clear and present danger to anyone's life or limb.

 

Did you actually read the majority opinion in either case? I'm going to assume that you either didn't or did not understand what those majority opinions actually mean.


Here is a pretty good read on the subject.


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OK. Why is it pasting links that way?


Screw it. Google
Police Have No Duty To Protect Individuals by Peter Kasler

Self-Reliance For Self-Defense -- Police Protection Isn't Enough!

There are several more court rulings attached to his article.

It plainly states the only instances where police are required to provide protection. Under the law as it is now written and with these court decisions an on duty cop can stand there watching as you are beaten to death and can not be held criminally or civilly liable.

 

Then citing specific inconsistencies between either ruling and what I said won't be a problem.

More likely you don't even know the statute and constitutional provision I referred to, because you never read the opinions.

Not interested in a reader's digest version of any court ruling, thanks anyway.

Neither opinion you cited says anything like that.

 

Go ahead and live in ignorance then. The decisions listed plainly state that cops have no duty to protect you unless there is a special relationship. There is only a special relationship if you are a prisoner of the penal system or have been involuntarily committed to a mental institution.

 

When the instructor is incompetent, there would seem to be little alternative.

Actually, neither opinion addresses the liability of a government agent absent a "special relationship", as both the plaintiff in DeShaney and the appellee in Castle Rock based their claims in part on the existence of such a relationship. This being the case, they have no application to the scenario I posited. Moreover, they do not deny the possibility of a criminal or civil action at the state level.

Which you would know, had you read either opinion.

 

Had you read the article you would have seen how these decisions do apply to the scenario you detailed.

 

Well shame on me for reasoning from the bare facts, rather than letting someone interpret them for me.

I guess.

 

The bade facts are pretty plainly established. Multiple courts have flat out said that police have no general duty to protect an individual.

 

Then one cannot help but wonder why you don't cite any court rulings that say so.

 

They were cited in the article I suggested you read.

 

I'm not going to watch it, but I'll take your word for it! I'm wearing a little thin with sort of bullshit!

 

Ya this!

 

Exactly what does that have to do with anything?

 

From the looks of, even at FREE it's not worth the match to burn it to the ground!

 

So getting paid is the reason to try and save a life, good to know!