Right, and the result will be self-instructed idiots. The students will get together and discuss a subject WITHOUT SUPERVISION OF A TEACHER WHO KNOWS THE SUBJECT. That's a recipe for disaster. Definition of teaching (from here): Not even AI can reproduce that ...
That would be reason 536 of why diversity harms society. Since standardized tests don't provide the exact same percentages per racial/ethnic groups, in the US, a system that went by standardized testing would favor Asians and Whites. Insert howls of outrage here. So the US is stuck with a far more inefficient system in sorting for higher education and any reforms we make are going to have to be made in the context of a racial spoils system.
Hence Pink Floyd and The Wall - Teacher! Leave them kids alone. Teaching as a profession will only survive as very competitive small business enterprise.
When I got out of the Marines in 1970, I interviewed employers as much as they interviewed me. I asked about educational benefits - I picked a company where they paid for college courses as long as I got a "C" or better. My Master's degree was paid in full by another employer. That was when companies valued employees - now they seem to regard employees as a cost that needs to be minimized. I always felt that a company was the product of the combined efforts of its employees, but apparently I am out of date.... I am proud that I put all 3 of my children thru college, set them off debt-free with a good used car and an excellent credit rating. (got them all credit cards and paid the bills).
And all that would mean nothing, at least as regards higher-education, if Bernie's idea was adopted for government subsidy of all tertiary schooling at state institution of learning for families earning less than $100K annually. (The median salary being around $50K for individuals.) Instead of pissing it down the DoD bottomless hole ...
Come live in Europe. See for yourself. Guess from where Bernie got the idea? Today, National Healthcare Services cover a population of 743 million (more than double that of the US) at a per capita cost half that of the US. For which in Europe we live 3-years longer than you (plural) in the US ...
My guess is that that has nothing to do with robots being any better than human whores, but either a novelty thing, or a testing the product thing, to see if the robot is worth buying. Humans have little to worry yet. Also, online learning, if done right, is almost as labor intensive as conventional teaching.
Well, it's not that "everyone goes to college" in America so much as "everyone should be allowed to go to college." Roughly speaking, we have about 10% high school dropouts, and then 68% of high school graduates attending college the fall after graduation. We don't want to limit college to those who start working for it at age 14.
Tertiary education includes "vocational". So, at the age of 13, one can wait four more years to become a car-mechanic. Regardless of the kind of work, with the exception of picking up the rubbish, one is likely to require some sort of training to master it. Even those who are not the most intelligent students will be able to chose from a number of "skill-sets" from which they can make a decent living. Moreover, at 14 one hasn't the faintest idea of what they want to do in life. Some take another 10/15 years to find out. Whatever and whenever that decision is taken, the educational process must be there to allow them the chance to pursue it. Moreover, with the Information Age upon us, education is going to become a recurrent necessity. Different aspects of "information" will open, and people will need to learn how to seek, obtain and master the process - regardless of its subject ...
Well, you have certainly cornered the whore vote with that position. Online learning is cheap, and in the comfort of home, and on your schedule. That is a triple play - not having to put up with teachers makes it a home run.
But it's not for everybody. I have two sons who have taken online courses at the high school level. One loves it, the other hates it. I've taken graduate level online courses. The course experience isn't the same as a classroom. Some things are better, others worse. Regardless, to do it right is almost as labor intensive as conventional teaching. The primary cost savings is in facilities maintenance and student transportation.
Please learn how to use the quote feature. I did not write what you claimed I did. That's a misuse of the quoting system. Ddyad wrote that.
A supermajority of American students obviously think school sucks. It can't get any worse, but it can get a lot cheaper. “In New York’s Big Four school districts, 6 out of 10 schools fail 90% of their students: In 58% of schools in Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, and Yonkers, 90% or more of children failed 2014 state exams in English Language Arts and math or were not college ready.*” “*Elementary and middle schools are categorized as failing when 90% (or more) of students fail to pass annual state ELA and math exams administered for grades 3-8. High schools are categorized as failing when more than 90% of students fail to meet the state’s standard for college readiness, the aspirational performance measure.” NEW REPORT DETAILS DEPTH OF SCHOOL FAILURE ACROSS NEW YORK STATE, 12/2/14, Press Release 12.2 February 23, 2015 • Press Release [Families for Excellent Schools] • Don't Steal Possible *FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE* December 2, 2014 http://www.familiesforexcellentschools.org/news/dontstealpossible/press-release-12 $15K - $22K/student/year - for this?
They are all the same in one Very Important respect. A Tertiary Education is almost free, gratis and for nothing. The US isn't even close to that. It all begins at the secondary-school level - and PISA (Program for International Student Assessment) shows clearly why. Look at the results here and note where the US is in the ranking vis-a-vis the European countries:
Yes. I personnaly consider that knowledge is one of the most sacred thing existing. Studing should supported. In such way, it's pitiful to consider that Europe spend so much money to train some brillant people to see them then migrate to the USA, because USA have better opportunities for work.
Think in terms of Net Migration. Many return. See here for an interesting view upon what is happening to "our immigrant students" (undated pdf): Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S. - excerpt: Read on, it's interesting ...
We're maybe doomed by many problems, but at least, we don't have flat earth society or people who think that chocolate milk come from brown cows. It's more a problem of money. USA is bigger, have less pop/km², speak the same language and weren't devastated twice during the last century. USA never really knew war on their own territory. Most europeans I know prefer to move to canada, but money is money, if you're brillant and an american research lab offer you 15 000 $/month to do research in good conditions, nobody is masochist at the point than refusing such offer.
America started with nothing in the 17th century. In the 18th century Americans had to fight a long war with the UK at the height of its military power to win independence, and the ferocity and devastation of US Civil War shocked European military observers. Europeans have had to overcome many obstacles, but the modern leviathan state is constricting the life out of you. And it is so unnecessary.
Europe has the talent, it just does not have the ambition. Everybody is waiting for economic conditions "elsewhere" to improve before they do what's necessary for theirs. That is, get off their backsides and buy something, anything. The economy is no miracle, just a hard slog. As for America, one must look at the economic news with a careful eye. From Nouriel Rubini (well-known American economist): Why Trumponomics cannot make America great again - For me, the key context is this phrase above: The administration’s inability to execute on the economic-policy front is unlikely to change. Trump is so fixated upon himself (and the endless controversy surrounding him and his election shenanigans) that he could not care a fig about the economy. Donald Dork was born in a well-known richman's cocoon - that of spectacular wealth. He is so fixated on himself that even his father was flabbergasted by his behaviour as child. He really thinks he is the center of the universe. See here a piece about his upbringing in a select "Queens" neighborhood in New York - excerpt: His father took the extreme measure of sending him off to a military academy. Where his classmates tried to push him out a window. That bit from the Washington Post here. The world was made for him as his playbox. Why not, when your born with a 40 megabuck gold-spoon in your mouth ... ?
