Hillary Clinton Beats Trump in Popular Vote /MOD WARNING

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  1. Bobbybobby99

    Bobbybobby99 New Member

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    They're people. I don't see why everyone has such a hard time recognizing them as people. Why is everyone so terrible at recognizing other people as being people! People with dreams, loves, romances, families, mothers- oh why bother, you aren't going to take a course in empathy by way of some stranger on the Internet.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Terrorists are people too. I am sure that you identify with them. A country without Borders is no longer a country. You may feel bad for lawbreakers but that does not change the fact that they break the law.
     
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    yes it is, it is everywhere via the ssn
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you know why motor voter registration is pushed by Democrats? There have been Californians on here proving the point that you were wrong.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that why you can register with only a signature in California? Yeah that really shows your a legally citizen.....
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Nope you are making a fallacious statement that there was one popular vote. Claiming there was a "the popular vote" does not change the FACT there was no "the popular vote", why do you think pretending there was one makes it so?

    Try dealing in the facts. How many of the popular votes, the 51, did she get the most votes? Or are you really ignorant of the fact they were all separate and unique elections?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump got less total votes than Clinton... that is just fact...

    and please stop calling posters "ignorant", it's not nice.... and doesn't make you any less wrong

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  8. Bluesguy

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    Which state election are you referring to?
     
  9. FreshAir

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    you can register as Mickey mouse, but wont be able to vote as Mickey Mouse

    the reason they have to accept the registration is by law they have to turn in all registrations, because the left and right can't ditch the other parties registrations

    the filtering occurs higher up.... that is how they detect double registering, felon registering and yes illegals registering.....

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    The President is President of the entire country, I am talking about all the votes of the entire country and trump got less of those votes then Clinton did, that is just fact

    your referring to electoral votes, I have been very clear I mean the actual votes of Americans like you and me.....

    most Americans understand that you can get less American votes and still win more electoral votes.... that is what Trump and Bush did

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    You think all Mexicans who come here illegally are fine upstanding non-citizens? You think all 11 to 16 million law breakers (for coming here illegally) are model families and don't end up on welfare? A lot them are bad hombres as Trump calls them. Conservatives don't choose to live in a fairy tale world. Look at what the Muslim refugee invasion is doing to Europe.
     
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    Very simple voter ID when you register and when you vote and submitting a false registration I would imagine would be submitting a false document to the government.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    After the electoral college votes on behalf of the states.

    So which state election were you referring to? There has been no one national election. Learn the difference.

    In what vote did the entire country participate, I was only allowed to vote in my states election of the slate of electors.

    That is just the fact as opposed to your fallacious statements.

    Yes I am referring to the 51 separate and unique elections that took place, in which election did we all vote in..............hint, we didn't and American citizens have never voted in a national election. Go study up on your civics.
     
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    and requiring all absentee ballots be notarized

    every American over 18 should be asked if they want to register when they get a drivers license, or when requesting their free gov issued ID.... problem solved on registration

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    the total votes of the country, not the state - how hard is that to understand

    you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink
     
  16. Bobbybobby99

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    Ah, so they're simultaneously collecting welfare and stealing all the good gods, that totally makes perfect sense. They aren't all model families, and some of them are on welfare, but the vast majority of people who go on welfare only stay on it for 6 months to a year, and if I have to give up a slice of my paycheck to keep little old Grandma Zoila from living on the streets I'm quite willing to do so. Even if you are absurdly uncharitable and suppose that there actually are three million illegals who have committed crimes of any severity other than their initial entry (the actual number is around 200,000, by the way), the other 8 million are decent people, who do not deserve to be kicked on the streets and left to starve, or sent back to Mexico and left to die by cartel violence and poverty. I am not devoid of compassion for individuals in worse circumstance than I, unlike some people.
     
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    Feel free to contribute your entire paycheck to keep little old Grandma Zoila from living on the streets if you like but I'd appreciate you keeping your oh so caring hands out of my pocket.
     
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    As is required in my state.

    And end third party registration.
     
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    There was no such vote, no national vote or election, why do you continue to pretend there was one, how hard is that to understand.

    So when you say the popular vote in which state are you talking about and how many of those completely separate, totally unique, not connected in any way with any other vote did Clinton win?

    you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink

    Tell me are you really trying to assert that if there were a national election, a national vote where we all voted in the same election under the same election rules and regulations and time frames that the results would be exactly the same as the 51 individual totally separate and unique elections that were held?

    You really want to be on record making that assertion which is filled with folly?

    Yes or no?
     
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    Nice that you can afford it. What of those who cant but still have to ?
     
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    yes there was, people voted, you count the votes for each candidate and that is the total votes they received, Trump lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote

    it' not surprising as most of the votes trump got were from republicans that did not want Hillary rather then republicans that wanted Trump

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    agree, tax cuts should be for those making less then 250k, those making more then 250k can afford to pay more
     
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    your state requires all absentee ballots to be notarized by a notary public? bravo for your state... all states should do that

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    Alabama also accepts absentee ballots with signatures of two witnesses.


    In my state, my signature is good enough.

    Maybe the difference is that in my state (WA) my ballot is issued to me specifically - that is, there is a bar code, so there is only one ballot ever created such that I could use it to vote.

    If I got a box of ballots, it would be useless to me, as each one of them would have been created for a specific voter, and if I wanted to cheat I would have to sign each of them in a way that matches the state voter registration database.

    Plus, each of those voters would likely have notified the state that they didn't get their ballot - so even if I perfectly forged each signature those ballots would be discounted and the state would be looking for me so they could prosecute!
     
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    In 51 completely separate elections there was no national vote.

    Tell me are you really trying to assert that if there were a national election, a national vote as you are fallaciously claiming occurred where we all voted in the same election under the same election rules and regulations and time frames that the results would be exactly the same as the 51 individual totally separate and unique elections that were held? What utter folly. You can pretend all you want but that does not change the fact that there was no national popular vote and there never has been a national vote in all the history of our country, you never learned that in school?
     
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    Really they come and hand it to you? You have to show ID when you get it? What if the person moved and is voting in another state but told their brother to vote on the ballot that came to the house using a copy of the signature to forge it? Or the spouse of the deceased voter voted on the ballot? Or the landlord who was collecting the mail in the empty apartment who also has a copy of the signature?

    And that has been a change on the signature requirement in Alabama since the last time I voted absentee and needs to be changed back. Alabama has been notorious for requiring notarization on documents, excuse the pun.
     

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