Hillary Clinton did NOT win the popular vote

LOL a alt realty posting inside of a alt realty thread how interesting.

 

Trying to explain this to liberals is like trying to teach calculus to a frog. They just don't "get it".
Liberals don't have the mental capacity to understand the concept.
They don't have the aptitude to attempt to learn.
They don't have the backbone to admit defeat.

They spent their entire lives being pampered and don't have the mental or emotional capacity to deal with the real world.

 

Trying to explain politics to a righty is like trying to reason with an evangelical. They can't hear.
Righties are too brainwashed to hear anything over the echo in their heads.
The don't have the IQ to grasp "complex subjects" like critical thinking.
The don't have the integrity to confront the truth and learn and grow beyond their programming.

 

Correction: Clinton won the "popular vote" as a significant indicator of California's sentiment.

No other single state held such sway.

Let's take a closer look:

CA popular vote
Clinton: 8,753,788
Trump: 4,483,810
Clinton won by 4,269,978

US popular vote
Clinton: 65,844,610
Trump: 62,979,636
Clinton won by 2,864,974

CA difference: 4,269,978
US difference: 2,864,974

Take away California's votes from both sides -- Trump wins by 1,405,004!


So what does this matter?

Not much if you're a liberal acolyte who wants to cling to the notion that the "popular vote" somehow matters.

However, if you take an objective look at this, you should come to the conclusion that the only reason Hillary Clinton got more overall votes is because so many people in a state so consumed by leftist ideology and so driven by the notion that blatant state-sanctioned & forced wealth redistribution decided that she should be the anointed one.

And the leftists in this country truly believe that the rest of the meaningless peon states just don't matter!

California just knows better, regardless of the overall timbre of the rest of the country. Am I in the ballpark?


Are you lefties REALLY so comfortable with all this?

Have you ever lived in California?

Yes...I have. It was painful...but eye-opening.

It drove home one potent and salient point in my mind: I am NOT comfortable with the notion of one state like California having so much control over our election process!


I suspect that if the tables were turned in this election and Clinton had won the EC, but Trump had won the "popular vote" -- you'd be singing an entirely different tune right now.

Be honest....wouldn't you be?

Would I be of a different opinion if the tables were turned?

Nope. I would not. Had Hillary Clinton won the EC, she would be our 45th President.


I believe in our Constitution. While not perfect, it is BY FAR the best document of federal governance on Earth.

Yes...it has been changed...and still can be changed - but it is very difficult. So difficult that it has only happened 27 times since 1789. Changing it is difficult for a very good reason.

We cannot scrap it and change every time the wind changes direction! That's what liberals are all about: change.

Change for the sake of change is perfectly fine with many -- but not for those who understand the perils of such radical and hasty change.


Still...the Constitution can be changed to rid ourselves of that pesky safety net we call the Electoral College.

All you need to do is:

- Get the House of Representatives to pass an amendment by 2/3 of Representatives. (Good luck getting 290 Representatives to go along with it!)

- Get the Senate to pass an amendment by 2/3 of Senators. (Good luck getting 67 Senators to go along with it!)

and....

- Get 3/4 of State Legislatures to go along with it. (Good luck getting 38 States!)



I believe that we are VERY fortunate to have our Electoral College. It is in place for our own good -- whether we realize it or not - and whether we accept it or not!

No - the EC is NOT meant to "save" us from the likes of Trump. It is meant to save us from the likes of a Hitler...or a Stalin...or a Ceausescu...or a Mussolini.

Come on - Trump may be a lot of things....but he's NOT all that!

Yeah - Donald Trump is abrasive...yeah, he's crude. No - he has no experience "governing". Neither did Obama...but you all think Obama was successful, don't you?


I submit to you that, regardless of what you might think of his business record, Donald J. Trump has immense experience making the kind of important decisions that are required of the U.S. President.

Obama did not. He had limited legislative experience, but NO executive experience at all. Ever.


We gave Obama a chance - even when he made it clear that "We won" (his words) when members of Congress tried to reach out and work with him.

He was having NONE of it! It was his way or the highway!

I cannot help but believe that is NOT a redeeming characteristic of a U.S. President!


Trump may succeed...he may not succeed. However, unless many of you make good on your vows to move to Canada, he will be YOUR President.


Just give the guy a damn chance and stop all the damned whining!!!

 

Trump won 32 popular votes.
Clinton won 19 popular votes.

So what happens if you add together all the Trump votes and all the Clinton votes from all the states?
Nothing happens. So get over it.

Trump is president.

Clinton is prom Queen.

 

It's statistically irrelevant so it doesn't matter.

It exists in that we tally up the totals, but again, they are irrelevant.

It's irrelevant because in states that leave heavily one way, the other side doesn't waste their time voting like they would if the popular vote mattered.

Keep clinging to something that's statistically irrelevant and and also invalid if you're using it to draw any conclusions.

 

So yesterday I found out that this theory or better said This lie came from the micrphone the Drug Addict Rush Limbaugh. Now we have the set of Trump supporters who are naive, stupid, and moronic or liars repeating this Fecal matter swill.

I guess that is what we can expect fir the next 4 or 8 years the liars will lead the morons into an era of stupidtism.

 

As an outsider from the UK all I can say is 'Good Luck America' you're sure gonna need it with Trump in the Presidency. And I have read Trumps History. I didn't like Clinton either, by the way, but I would prefer someone who thought before they spoke. Someone with tact and diplomacy. After all, it's not good pressing the 'Red Button' (not necessarily the nuclear button), and then having second thoughts. Bush and Blair led the Middle East into chaos without careful consideration and we are suffering for it now. And desperately trying to deny responsibility, and remedy the situation, at the same refusing to accept those we are responsible for displacing.

Good Luck America - and the rest of the world.

 

...and we Americans sincerely wish all you folks "across the pond" the best of luck dealing with the problems your liberal policies have brought about by allowing all those radical jihadi terrorists to flood your countries practically unabated.

We can take an important lesson from that!

 

Thank you. Perhaps you could take a lesson by stopping your own people murdering each other by lax guns laws. I forgot. You've still got wild west men and Indians to defend yourselves from,.

Our 2 countries have caused the death of millions, ditto refugees, and we refuse to pick up the pieces. If we want to sit back and watch innocent women and children dying we will eventually suffer the consequences anyway. In this modern world no-one is insulated whatever you may think.

From 1948 until we invaded Iraq, the Middle East mainly dealt with its own problems..When Hussein invaded Iran, he was thrown out by Iran, with a bloody nose. Only when he invaded Kuwait we went in because we had a treaty with Kuwait.. We withdrew from parts of Iraq gained during that war. While there were militia around they were mainly under control.
The invasion of Iraq under Bush and Blair and the defeat of Hussein, without consideration of the consequences, has left the whole Middle East to crumble into chaos.
The West is trying to destroy several thousand years of culture to 'bring these people up to date' with our sad standards. It can't be done. The West took two thousands years to free 'serfs', allow freedom of speech, women's, the power of the church over politics.

 

The popular vote is not what makes someone president so it really does not matter. Trump had the strategy and ground game to win so that is what happened. Hillary pissed away over a billion dollars so it is not surprising she got more of the popular vote. I guess it is a consolation prize to get the popular vote but she failed in so many other ways she did not deserve to win. Hillary is a loser.

Even after the election she kept losing. Recount=fail Stealing EC votes=fail....the hits just keep on coming!

 

California was the state that most contributed to Clinton's margin. Californians are as American as are every voter in the former Confederate States, and we don't discriminate to contrive partisan biases.

Again, the popular vote has no official significance, but, as a democratic metric, is of unique value.

 

Hillary lost the popular vote. More people voted for someone else.

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The whining metric.

 

I have friends in Cleveland who are loving this thread. If you don’t win, change the rules of the game. Let’s get that trophy from Chicago and move it to Cleveland where it belongs!

At the end of “the game” the 9th inning of the 7th game, Cleveland was winning 26 total series runs to 25 total series runs. Then they decided to rig the outcome and make both teams play an extra inning where Chicago scored 2 runs and Cleveland only scored 1 run, but even that was not a win for Chicago because the final world series score was a total of 27 runs for each team, it was a tie!

 

In the end, independents decide elections from here on out. The red vs blue dynamic only exists because the system dictates we have to go through them to find out who we can pick from. It will be interesting to know the amount of independents it will take for the public to wake up to the fact they can flip the switch and bypass the parties. If we are still picking a republican or democrat with 70% independents we are truly pathetic.

 

You are in Florida where Obama directly told illegal aliens to vote for Hillary Clinton.

And here in California, after years of fighting the politicians over spending money on
illegal aliens, the democrats gave them drivers licenses, voter registrations and ballots
in Spanish. Her margin of victory here is about the same as the number of illegal alien
voters here in the state. Granted, the state won't investigate, but hopefully one of the
conditions of Trump's deportation of the illegals is that any of them that voted not be
allowed to return.

 

Do two alt realities = reality?

 

You cannot /thread your own post. That's like patting yourself on the back for a witty comment when you're the only one excited about it.

 

Hyper-partisans can whine, and desperately try to spin the empirical reality:

Clinton: 65,844,954

Trump: 62,979,879

The democratic expression does not impact the official result:

Trump: 306

Clinton: 232


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The average Californian is a brain-dead entitlement lemming.

Call that "American" if you want...and judging by the overall voting trends, I'm actually inclined to agree with that part of your statement.

(That's NOT a good thing!)

 

Nice to meet you, Prime Minister Chamberlain!

How's THAT for a history lesson?

 

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The vote totals are what they are. That the states most dependent upon federal aid (Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, South Dakota, Missouri, Montana, Georgia, New Mexico, and Alabama lead the list - California ranking #42.) overwhelmingly favoured Trump is of no consequence. None.

 

This thread is conclusive proof that this is an extreme right wing forum, that uses fake news to promote the fascist agenda. Allowing totally false propaganda is nothing less than what the nazis did to deceive the Germans.

 

Since elections are not run to make California the most influential state your whining is irrelevant.

Total popular vote difference for Hillary nationally 2,864,974
Total popular vote difference for Hillary in California 4,483,810