HOBBY LOBBY owner 'installs' BIBLE curriculum in PUBLIC SCHOOLS in OK

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  1. smallblue

    smallblue Well-Known Member

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    No, it completely follows. You stated that America was built upon Christian principals, so that must include the principal that slavery was moral and legal, as was not allowing women to vote or take office and any of the biased discriminatory laws based on ones sex when the country was founded.

    We ditched these Christian principals didn't we?
     
  2. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    So you are arguing that Thomas Jefferson was a Christian?

    Is that would you would call someone who denies Jesus's divinity and edits the Bible to remove all references to the supernatural?
     
  3. Forster

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    lol. You do know what secular means don't you? I'm assuming you know the First Amendment by heart and that it does in fact set out a secular state for our country.
     
  4. Radio Refugee

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    Here we see the compound confusion that can only be obtained through American college education.
     
  5. CJtheModerate

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    "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." -George Washington

    "Every new & successful example therefore of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance. And I have no doubt that every new example, will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together." -James Monroe

    "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state." -Thomas Jefferson
     
  6. Radio Refugee

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    Utter nonsense. When it was written there were STATE RELIGIONS in several of the states. There were religious tests for office.

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    Those have all been struck down by the Supreme Court because they violated the Constitution.
     
  8. Forster

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    And the founding fathers in their wisdom knew this was a big problem which is why the put in the first amendment.
     
  9. Questerr

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    There was also slavery, institutionalized racism, institutionalized mysogyny, and an oligarchic system in which your vote was based on how much money you had.

    You want to return to the good ole days and our Founders values?
     
  10. Flintc

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    And here, boys and girls, we see the implicit threat made real. THIS is what we risk.
     
  11. smallblue

    smallblue Well-Known Member

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    Hey, those were the Christian principals American was founded on.
     
  12. Radio Refugee

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    Well, they didn't "violate the Constitution" for at least a century. The foundation is at issue here, not what a thug in black robe dictates.
     
  13. CJtheModerate

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    Neither did slavery. Your point?
     
  14. natureChurch99

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    This is SO off, i can hardly beleive even a lib would sink this low. I suppose you think that the Browns in the Brown v Board of Education case bought their wy to the Sup Ct also? They were "poor" but according 2 u, if one gets to the Sup Ct, he had to have bought his way there... You don't bother to explain any interpretation of your words that might be to the contrary

    ditto this. Do you realize how you sound? You are saying that if women working @ Hobby L can't get contraceptives from Hobby L, they will suffer horrendous consequences, like unplanned pregnancies. thanks for insulting all women here. It's nice to know how liberals think of women: helpless, stupid [can't figure out how to get them elsewhere] and dependent ["Oh, if my employer doesn't give me birth control... what WILL I do???? Oh my!!"]

    good one

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    YES, OKLAHOMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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  15. Forster

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    lol @ activist judges.
     
  16. cpicturetaker

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    Let me tell you something! I was a NAVY BRAT. My first exposure to the Constitution was in VIRGINIA. Let me repeat that--VIRGINIA. The cradle of the FOUNDING FATHERS (according to Virginia). It may have been written in PHILLY, but VIRGINIA claimed 'ownership'. Now unless my 3rd, 4th and partial year 5th grade teachers were SECULAR COMMIE PINKOS (Mrs. Corprew--my 3rd/4th grade teacher--who was probably 100 then and a VIRGINIAN) explained to us that the Constititution was the founding document, a 'living document', and NO biblical/christian based angle that I can remember. Yep, I still believe MRS. CORPREW over SCALIA!!
     
  17. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't see that it's even true, of course look at the source...............An anonymous blog.

    Domain Name: RAWSTORY.COM
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    http://www.whois.com/whois/rawstory.com

    OOppss there it is again.

    Might as well listen to some guy on a street corner with a bullhorn.
     
  18. leekohler2

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    No, it's unfit for religious people. You guys can try all you like, but you will never turn the US into a theocracy.
     
  19. Dollface

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    Seems to me this guy wants to impose his moral and religious views on everyone else.. Go figure.
     
  20. Joker

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    I would like to see more courses in high schools related to the Bible, especially for students interested in literature. There are so many references to it in classic literature that not having some basic understanding of the Bible makes it more difficult for students to fully appreciate many of the classics. I mean, we could easily skip Deuteronomy, as few authors have found enough inspiration in it to bother alluding to it, but much of the rest, especially the Old Testament, would be a great complimentary course for any literary students.
     
  21. Piscivorous

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    Ever been to Salt Lake City? One of the most progressive cities west of the Rockies. Just a bus ride from the Mormon Tabernacle.
     
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    Seems fine. It's an elective, and actually seems pertinent on its face. I don't believe for a second that they'll be balanced in how things are taught, but I also don't really care. This doesn't look like it will be a problem unless it somehow causes other, arguably more important, electives and extracurricular activities to get cut due to the additional costs associated with it.
     
  23. cpicturetaker

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    And WHITE MEN without property couldn't vote. I guess that should have remained true as well, right? (Black ones WERE property!) And Scalia says a strict constructionist. So white men without property still wouldn't be able to vote. No women could vote. And we would still have slaves. THAT IS ENOUGH TO KEEP US AWAKE AT NIGHT.
     
  24. Forster

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    It's a great place, but I was talking about small towns in Southern Utah... ever been to some of those, or in Southern Idaho?
     
  25. Piscivorous

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    Yup. They're not like the fictional town you're thinking about in Footloose.
     

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