HOBBY LOBBY owner 'installs' BIBLE curriculum in PUBLIC SCHOOLS in OK

Is not America a great country. I ask you, could you find a scale model replica of Noah's Ark, complete with animal figures, anywhere else?

 

You are unable to back your BS.

No quote. No apology. No stones.

 

Is this man a federal judge no he isnt?? I read the article the only reason you agree with him is his shares your twisted veiw that America is a Christian Nation. This man is not a judge and when this is thrown out by the courts I am sure you will nowhere to be found. Oh wait you will blame Obama

 

I'm not Christian. I am going by the article posted and going by forum rules meanwhile you try snarky insults. That and the deflection attempt at the end like you usually do ~

Do you want to discuss the article yes or no or do you want to yet again go after a poster? This is not DU btw stop acting like it is.

 

Who is deflecting I asked you a very simple question that you refuse to answer.

 

I wasnt aware you needed to be a Federal Judge to mention a similar court case. You are deflecting the thread to me by saying my "twisted views" when you know nothing about me and mentioning Obama at the end when he is not part of the topic is nothing but flamebait. Shall i contact the Admin or do you want to actually discuss the topic?

 

Get back to me when President Huckabee and Vice President Palin start installing the theocracy.

 

If it's an elective and a historical basis, there is nothing wrong with it. I agree that he is wrongly bent with his religion, but this approach is okay. I would also agree if they make it a mandate then there is an issue.

 

Wrong. . .it is freedom of religion AND freedom from it!

 

Yes but we all know it will be just what it appears to be trying to turn a public school into a church.

 

The Green family has ENOUGH MONEY to buy a conservative agenda We can't convince them on merit. We'll BULLY our way to acceptance with buying up the system.

Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

 

I don't trust the religious right either, but if what they are doing is legal, then one must accept it as such.

 

let's hope it NEVER gets to that point....

 

Absolutely you can.

You are free to choose the faith you desire, including no faith at all. You have absolutely no right to to impede the freedoms of others to do the same.

Its really a pretty simple concept.

 

Ah, I see the problem. You're quoting an atheist website. They couldn't possibly have an agenda. Nope.

 

There are more rich liberals than conservatives. They're the true pioneers of agenda buying. Now that the conservatives MIGHT be playing catchup, you have a problem with it?

 

Absolute non-sense.

In order for people like you to carry out a life free from religion, you must impose on the freedoms of everybody around you.

Should we start draping large black clothes over churches to protect your precious eyes?

So long as other people are free to express their faith, you have the option of not participating. You have no such right to prevent others from enjoying their right to participate in the faith of their choosing.

Don't like it, then change the channel rather than advocating for the abolishment of all televisions like an extremist.

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The Green family is in your crosshairs because they dared to challenge the agenda you support.

Liberals are so predictable.

 

Impeding on the rights of others is not freedom from anything.

Freedom from anything means strictly that you are free to ignore it whether it is speech or religion.

Freedom from religion means only that you are free to reject all religions and their teachings. That is in fact an absolute requisite for freedom of religion. You can choose which ever religion you agree with reject all others or none at all.

You can speak your mind and ignore all others. No one is obligated to listen to another.

Freedom of speech means freedom from it and freedom of religion means freedom from religion.

You cannot have one without the other.

 

Because, obviously, the Christian Right websites do not have an agenda, right?

 

Absolutely not! Freedom of religion means that anyone has the right to select and practice the religion they CHOOSE. . .or no religion at all.

Freedom from religion means that practice of religion (any religion) is NOT to influence the life of others through government setting a "national" religion or giving preference to one religion over the other, or to impose religious principles on ANYONE.

If laws are made based on ONE religion, it is against the Constitution. It is no more Constitutional to make laws based on "Christianity" than it is to make Sharia laws, or laws based on Jewish faith, Hinduism, or any other.

Everyone is free to practice their religion. . .but no one has the right to impose the beliefs of that religion on anyone else, and the government should not be subjected to pressure to make laws that are more advantageous to ANY "flavor" of religious beliefs.

 

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I thought if you were reminded what you said you wouldn't deny it... Here you are clearly arguing for a claim about a Christian constitution, and even quoting John Adams claims that he "speaks for" you.
You are trying to distance yourself from this, obviously you know you were wrong. But don't try to spin that as me misrepresenting you. And I have done you no wrong; I owe you no apology, and if you need an apology, then grow some skin.

 

You are outed as wrong by your own post.

Not one line allows anyone to conclude "You claim the Constitution itself is Christian."

You are a fraud. And your a tiny man that can't admit it. Shame on you.

 

Does Adams not speak for you then, even though you said he did?

 

The problem is entirely caused by public education. Send your kids to a private school, or better yet teach them yourself if you have the ability

If using taxpayer money to teach children the Bible doesn't violate the establishment clause, what does?

The idea that the Federal government can go fully religious in practice, but as long as they don't slap a little irrelevant sticker saying "Christian nation" on the front they're not violating the establishment clause - is ridiculous.

Read Judge Napolitano's book on Roosevelt and Wilson. Had a real good summary of the religion in schools issue.

 

Adams, in that quote, does not state anything relating the Constitution AND Christianity.

You can't freeeeeekin read, can you?

Any you're a tiny little troll that can't admit you're dead wrong.