Holes shaped like planes?

It wasn't an argument..it was an opinion.

Quit digging.

 

I asked you, "How much force do YOU think it takes to shear a WTC steel column?"

You responded with assumptions and shoulds. Can you not calculate how much force it takes to shear a WTC steel column? Pick any column you want. Tell me how much force it takes to shear it.

When did I say something about reduced surface area? I said that the force of the impact would have needed to have been spread over a surface area much larger then the building possessed in order for the steel in the building to have resisted that force without damage. The ratio of force to area is pressure. I was talking about pressure. Megapascals are units of pressure.

Did the plane hit the entire building? Nope. It hit a specific area of the building. When you punch a wall in your mother's basement, do you have to accelerate the entire house before your fist goes through the wall? Does your fist shatter into little pieces since the entire house weighs thousands of times more than you do? Nope.

Is truther ignorance due to laziness, or inability to comprehend the subjects they are talking about? The speed of sound through steel is 20000 feet per second. The speed of the aircraft as 806 feet per second. The aircraft moved 1 foot for every 25 feet the energy moved through the building. Even if the plane struck right in the middle of the height of the building, parts of the plane could have been 20 feet inside the building before the energy of the impact even made it to the ground, and 40 feet before the energy reflected back from the ground to the point of the impact. And that's assuming that the steel was strong enough to transmit that amount of energy, which it was not.

 

I forgot to mention this:

Why is it that truthers don't see a plane entering the building, but they do see one exiting?

 

1D truther glasses?

 

I cant speak for all truthers but I see a CGI plane entering the building and a CGI plane exiting the building.

There ius a 100,000 dollar reward for anyone with ORIGINAL REAL plane footage.

All those millions and millions of people and no one can come up and claim the prize.

Amazing isnt it?

 

nope its a cgi plane, you can tell because real planes cant come out the other side.

 

Where is the rest of that video....you know....showing its not a plane, but debris?...mmmm???

 

Best post I seen in a very long time! kudos! I'd give you 5 thumbs up if I could! lol

For some reason huggers think that the whole mass of the plane is applied to every square inch of what it impacts. You can see this in the pentagon pole arguments.

Some very out there fizix.

YES!

Maybe it's also time to tell me about the 'ultimate strength' of whatever that airplane was made of. You took into account that of the steel but not that of the fuselage which is perfect as it enters the building all the way to the facade. Watch the slow motion videos.

Its time they lay those cards on the table.

He talks about it but didnt give any numbers. I gave numbers for it a while back on one of these forums I think it was this one.

this is closer to the same size

 

there is no such video, if you have it please post it.

 

So, the rest of that FOX video doesn't exist??? are you being obtuse for a reason?

 

Silly, fuel can. I love how you take a grainy gif and not the real video and see something that only your imagination sees and call it fact. I notice how you don't include the rest of the video where all of that bursts into flames.

CGI huh? You mean that someone took all of the news videos and private videos from different angles and CGIed all of them? Please.

 

Yes, and they did that without ANYONE complaining their property had been tampered with!....That's his position.

 

nope its been posted several times, go to the no planer thread.

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after watching jennings and several other people get dead who is going to complain? you? LOL

 

but they look the same

Oh you mean where pac man comes alive and swallows that error right up? LMAO

I suppose you believe the one going in a plane right?



yeh judge there it is da plan!

Here is what a plane looks like.



here is what a plane looks like at 5 miles away with a consumer cam





dont you think its amazing? That there are no blobs, no missing wings,and its a plane destroying gif too!

 

any typically, you post isn't evidence. You still cannot disprove planes hit the building. No amount of posting senseless videos will help you.

 

That is how it looks if you are focusing on the aircraft and objects in the near foreground. You have failed basic photography. Go read up on "depth of focus." You can only clearly record that on which you specificly focus.

 

but lefty its more than 50 feet so its focused at infinity




thats what that little squiggly doodle mark is.

what should I read?

 

There are also factors like aperture and zoom to take into consideration. Smaller aperture and increased zoom come in handy on the long shots where you need a great depth of focus. Most pocket digital cameras, which were as majority of those in use that day kind of average things out.

You lose a lot of detail that way.

The lens you show is not one that the average office worker or casual tourist has in his pocket.

 

When you take something from TV, reduce it to a compressed gif, you will lose quite a bit of detail.

 

But not the tips of the wings. Research that. Look at the picture in the OP. You see a surgical precision cut by the wing tip.

What photos? All photos of the holes show the mark left by the wing tip, especially in the North Tower. The areas on the wings that didn't go through the windows should have been stopped by the columns and fallen back since they are too light.

 

What you say gives birth to a paradox. So at that speed the plane was rigid enough to cut steel but delicate enough to remain normal in any square centimeter on its surface until that centimeter met something... Not plausible. It's a paradox. That's why I asked Fangbeer to take into account the high level of rigidity that plane needed in order to cut the steel. But as you say, the fuselage (provided that a real plane was used) proves that there is no such rigidity.

What you say about the fuselage staying perfect and not deforming until it meets something seems to be true as you can see in the following video as well as in the OP video with that airport building that got rammed. But it also disproves that the plane in South Tower can be deformed like you say and not explode. Slow motion videos show that it explodes only long after it goes inside the building. If you look at this accident which happened hours ago you see that explosion happens as deformation happens:

[video=youtube;zOSFh6djelQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOSFh6djelQ[/video]​

 

Where do you think the fuel is kept? Fuel has mass and so does aluminum at that speed. You really have a very poor understanding of physics. It would be a good idea to keep from making such ill informed statements. Like they say, some people may think you are stupid, don't open your mouth and prove it.

 

Apples and oranges. First of all this aircraft hit wing first, the fuel is in the wings. Jet aircraft fuel is basically diesel fuel. You will notice that the fuel has to disperse and atomize before it will ignite. Same thing happened in the buildings.

 

The wing tips have no fuel in them.

 

But even as 175's wings hit the tower they didn't ignite.