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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OP argues that unless you witnessed it with your OWN eyes, every historical event in history may be a lie.

    this is absurd.
     
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    BlackHogGranolaBrown Banned

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    Science plays this game when it comes to paranormal events though.
    Not that I necessarily believe in paranormal events, but they could very well exist.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the evidence for the Holocaust is overwhelming.

    millions of Jews were murdered by the Nazis and their allies.

    case closed
     
  4. Thehumankind

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    Well you will certainly have to express it if you deny, :)
    but how will it affect the victims which are the Jews matters most,
    They've lost 6 million of their own and they have survivors and descendants who will be affected,
    it's very painful for them for it will decriminalize the likes of Hitler, Goering, Himmler, and the rest who did orchestrate the murder and will even make them as the felons not as the victims.
    Would that be okay?
     
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    Didn't say that the Holocaust didn't happen, in fact I just said that it did according to Nazi, Polish, Soviet, and Jewish testimonies.

    However, it seems also millions of people have witnessed paranormal events, and this is just dismissed by science as a sort of psychosis.

    It seems there's a lot of hypocrisy in our society.
     
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    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Slippery slope argument.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    very absurd comparison
     
  8. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have not done enough research, just as I have not done enough research on Area 51 or 9/11. I choose to accept the holocaust because the social penalty for not doing so is very high.
     
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    I've personally seen UFO's, but that's about the only paranormal I've seen.
    However, I've talked to quite a good deal of people who have seen Ghosts, or UFO's.

    Why is it absurd?
    If anything what is absurd is to not study a phenomenon, while calling it a psychosis.
     
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    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And do you think that this is fair to us?
     
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    Not at all. ;)
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    UFO is simply something in the sky you cannot identify.

    "Unidentified Flying Object".

    comparing that to people who witnesses gas chambers, mass shooting, is absurd
     
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    Once again you have heard is not an argument.

    it is documented and proven they were denied medical supplies and treatment and food.

    Not the same thing as claiming a shortage.
     
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    Fair to who?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    accusing the Jews of massive fraud and deceit, isn'r fair to them.
     
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    Fairness and Abe Foxman have nothing to do with the law implemented in several European countries and not in the US. The law is about the prevention of neo-Nazism and if the population of these Western democracies in essence equate Holocaust denial to hate speech and propaganda of Nazism and want to criminalize it, who am I to tell them that they are wrong, given their history.

    PS fair or not, as I said, holocaust deniers are all jew-hating neo-nazis and fairness to them is the least of my concerns, there are more pressing issues on the planet and more outrageous injustices than imprisoned Nazis. People whining about the criminalization of Holocaust denial (I don't mean you) are virtually always doing it out of obvious self-serving reasons.
     
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    Pretty much all of us. The society.

    Quote me.
     
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    No one is trying to criminalize it.

    It is legal to deny it all you want here in the USA.

    We have no control over what european nations do
     
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    and yet you support slander and libel laws
     
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    Even the Romans saw flying shields, what the heck was causing that?
    There's no way back then they saw any kind of manmade flying vehicle in the sky.

    I think we simply deserve better answers than that it's just some kind of psychosis, or swamp gas.
     
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    How so?

    I support an extremely strong standard of free speech. You should face absolutely no penalty even for accusing Jews of a holocaust cover up. Unless you are saying "Oi! Let's go kill some Jews right now!" I'll leave you alone.
     
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    1. Whether there are "more outrageous injustices than imprisoned Nazis" is debatable. Apparently some people (I know you are not one of them) care about it very much.
    2. Even if this weren't all that important, are you not able to care about it while simultaneously worrying the "more important" stuff?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote me.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you refuse to answer.

    do you support Libel and Slander laws?
     
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    I do not. You are not entitled to the pleasant feelings of others.
     
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    Oh please, your OP. That you're implying that there was no Holocaust instead of explicitly stating that makes it cowardly, not clever, and it ain't fooling a single person here.
     

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