Horrible mistreatment of women in muslim world

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  1. Anders Hoveland

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLN11ym5uXE&feature=related"]Rape Laws in Islamic Pakistan - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Where's the feminists outcry for this? Why arent they protesting this? Oh I forgot they only care for the white middle class democrat voting women in america..stupid me
     
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    The feminists don't care. They only care about political power in America.

    Did you know that Pakistan is one of the places that still has slavery???
     
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    I'm not a feminist, but what do you propose feminist do? Fly to pakistan(or any ME country) and rally in the streets?
     
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    Do you think women are not beaten or gang raped in the US? Or do you think that Pakistan is "the muslim world"?
     
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    It might be smarter for feminists to protest the abuse, rapes and murders of American women .. Oh right... They do that.
     
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    Yea cause it happens so much here compared to the middle east *sarcasm*
    That "1 out of 4 women are raped" bs you feminists see to keep bringing up has been debunked

    Feminists in america are like little girls who cry that they didnt get picked first cause they think they are pretty and everyone should just obey them cause they say so

    No one takes you guys seriously anymore because you fabricate or BLARE stories of women being abused and whenever REAL oppression happens you are silent or say what margot said
     
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    [video=youtube;H754R9tX2UY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H754R9tX2UY&feature=related[/video]
     
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    You think Pakistan equals the whole Muslim world? LOL
     
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    Who is the "they" you are referring to?
     
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    Bono doesn't have to live in Africa to make an impact in reducing the AIDS epidemic there. Because it's an important enough issue to him to go where the pain is and get involved. Western feminists could do some real good for the world if they would take this same approach to women's suffering around the globe. If they would go and get involved and stop using distance as an excuse.


    Is that really the case or is it just the excuse they hide behind to justify only investing their time in issues that directly benefit themselves? Why can't American feminists set up a branch of their organization specifically to help women in other countries that do not have the same freedoms that women in America have? That seems like a pretty good idea if you truly care about women. That way they're branching out and helping even more women.
     
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    Explain how they should do so. Also, why should only feminists do it? Seems just a tad hypocritical to tell others what they should be doing and not do it yourself.
     
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    Rape victim to be sent to jail for 1 year and given 100 lashes for adultery and attempted abortion
    Adnan Shabrawi, Saudi Gazette
    December 6, 2011


    JEDDAH – A 23-year-old unmarried woman was awarded one-year prison term and 100 lashes for committing adultery and trying to abort the resultant fetus. The District Court in Jeddah pronounced the verdict on Saturday after the girl confessed that she had a forced sexual intercourse with a man who had offered her a ride. The man, the girl confessed, took her to a rest house, east of Jeddah, where he and four of friends assaulted her all night long. The girl claimed that she became pregnant soon after and went to King Fahd Hospital for Armed Forces in an attempt to carry out an abortion. She was eight weeks’ pregnant then, the hospital confirmed. According to the ruling, the woman will be sent to a jail outside Jeddah to spend her time and will be lashed after delivery of her baby who will take the mother’s last name.

    http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?contentID=2009020828735&method=home.regcon


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rabia-murdering-boss-said-tried-rape-her.html

    http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Images:Violence_Against_Women
     
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    That's messed up. Sad people use Islam to justify such barbarity.
     
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    Of course, some muslim countries are much worse than others. And the types of mistreatment varry between countries. In Egypt and Pakistan, a large segment of the population is impoverished, and cultural-religious practices of abuse towards women are deeply imbedded. Most of this abuse is carried out by individuals and tribal councils, rather than perpetrated by the national governments in these two countries. Although this practices are so common that the government usually looks the other way. The Sudan is an extremely poor African country, plaqued by violence, and girls are sold outright for marriage to other men, severely beaten if they try to resist. It is here that one finds all those outrageous practices: severe forms of female genital mutilation, adulterous women are buried chest-high in dirt and stonned to death, for example. All this is very traditional in many rural communities. Iran and Saudi Arabia have very strict Islamic governments, that impose Sharia-influenced law and punishments. In Saudi Arabia, women can be beheaded just for being raped, since it is considered "adultery" if the woman cannot prove it was rape. This happens in the western provinces of Pakistan also. Women are traditionally not expected to go outside the house unaccompanied by male relatives (who presumably can act as witnesses if she gets raped). Punishments in Saudi Arabia have generally become less extreme in recent decades, and the government now mostly uses beheadings only in more extreme crimes to set an example. Prison sentences are being used instead, altough a woman was recently beheaded for allegedly practicing "witchcraft" and "sorcery".

    Muslim women in southeast Asia are generally treated better, although there is some genital mutilation happening in Malaysia and Indonesia. Muslim countries such as Morocco and Azerbaijan are much less strict (they even drink alcohol), and there generally is not any severe abuse against women here. Turkey has a secular government, but a few of the local provinces still enforce ridiculous sanctions on women and family life. In several instances, husbands have repeatedly forced their wives to have sex with them, against the will of the woman, again and again. Forcing ones wife to have sex agaisnt her will is not a punishable offense most of the provinces. Some of these women do not have any other choice, they may be too poor to leave, and if they do, the man is awarded full custody of the children. Divorce can also be difficult to obtain, there are technically certain conditions that have to be met.
     
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    What's your point of this thread anyway?
     
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    Americans cannot do anything in Pakistan as it is. There would need to be a much stronger native feminist movement in place. In the meantime, it does the Pakistani women no good to see American feminists put down as a nuisance.

    Not to give up hope, though. There are feminist movements stirring in the less repressive Muslim countries in Europe and Africa, espeically in Mali, Mauritania, Senegal, Gambia, Guinea, Burkina Faso and Nigeria. The women of Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan always have been a bit freer than those in even non-Muslim nations like India.
     
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    Women are being sold like slaves, being forced into "marriage" repeatedly with different men. After the women are done being sexually used by one man, they are forced to undergo hymen-restoration surgery. This is so they can pretend to be virgins to the next man they are forced to be "married" to. Then the new man can rip and tear into her, like she was a virgin. And these poor women are forced to go through this multiple times. According to the article, some of the women have been subjected to the surgery over a dozen times:
    Syrian and Iraqi girls shipped naked after being sold at ISIL slave bazaars

    (ISIL is just an alternate name for ISIS for any of you who may not have realized it)
     
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    A question I keep on asking here:


    If Islam is so sexist and enslaves women as the West alleges, why are 70% of its converts in Europe and the USA women, most of whom are white????
     
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    Sickening, absolutely sickening

    As an egalitarian, I think it's wrong how women are treated in some Muslim countries.
     
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    Its pretty easy to understand why feminist don't care about the mistreatment of women in some Muslim countries.

    Feminists are liberals and liberals believe in multiculturalism and if you believe in multiculturalism it means you have to accept other people's cultures no matter what.

    It is kind of interesting that feminists believe in affirmative action in the west and support shariah law in the middle east.

    Seems absurd?
     
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    Slavery is illegal in Pakistan..
     
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    Well, that settles it then, doesn't it?

    ~~~
    Paying their debts back brick by brick: The Pakistani modern day slaves trapped in a lifetime of hardship
    More than two million Pakistanis are believed to be trapped in life long contracts to pay back their debts
    Laws were passed in the early 1990s outlawing bonded labour, but thousands of children are sucked in each year
    Pakistan has the third most 'slaves' in the world, after India and China, according to a recent global survey

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-trapped-lifetime-hardship.html#ixzz3yLh5Vd8e
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    Here's another...

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    Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery
    Pakistan is a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children trafficked for the purposes of forced labor and sexual exploitation. The country’s largest human trafficking problem is that of bonded labor, which is concentrated in Sindh and Punjab provinces, particularly in brick kilns, carpet-making, agriculture, fishing, mining, leather tanning, and production of glass bangles; estimates of Pakistani victims of bonded labor, including men, women, and children, vary widely but are likely over one million. Parents sell their daughters into domestic servitude, prostitution, or forced marriages, and women are traded between tribal groups to settle disputes or as payment for debts.
    - U.S. State Dept Trafficking in Persons Report, June, 2009

    http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Pakistan.htm
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    And another...

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    The Pakistani government, along with the world community, prohibits the practice of debt slavery. However, it is highly inefficient when it comes to enforcing the laws and punishing the people who profit from slavery.

    Developed countries and humanitarian organizations are highly critical of modern day slavery. Human Rights Watch (HRW) argues that bonded labor is more common in the southern Punjab and Sindh regions of Pakistan. “Bondage in agrarian regions involves the purchase and sale of peasants among landlords, the maintenance of private jails to discipline and punish peasants, the forcible transference of teachers who train peasants to maintain proper financial accounts and a patter of rape of peasant women by landlords and the police,” said the organization.

    HRW also ties this issue into poverty by explaining that bonded laborers either work in the agricultural industry or the “informal economy.”
    This is a vicious circle in which the landless poor “are denied access to institutional forms of credit and must therefore rely on landlords, moneylenders and employers.” To end debt slavery in Pakistan, the government can work harder to enforce the laws already banning the practice. With debt slavery, individuals are fooled into working in horrible conditions for the rest of their lives.
    http://borgenproject.org/women-modern-day-slavery-pakistan/
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    Want more? I can do this all day.
     
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    Suspected Serial Killer Arrested in Rape and Murder of 7-Year-Old Pakistani Girl...
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    Suspected Serial Killer Arrested in Rape and Murder of 7-Year-Old Pakistani Girl
    January 23, 2018 - A suspected serial killer has been arrested following the rape and murder of 7-year-old Zainab Amin, whose body was found in a trash heap in Kasur, Pakistan, earlier this month.
     

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