House Republicans impeach Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas in historic, controversial vote

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  1. FatBack

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    If you want to talk about facts the fact is..... I'm not the one sitting here complaining about conservatives not going along with the Democrats plan to allow 5000 illegals into our nation every single day. ( But we all know you're "not a Democrat" even though you seem to go along with 99% of everything they do...,)

    Of course no actual American who gives a damn about our country should agree that that is a good idea
     
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    I am talking about the facts of the legislation. It was bipartisan and not a “Democrats plan”

    Except I don’t — I don’t even agree with this bill although I can acknowledge it is likely the best we can get. But again, whatever you need to tell yourself

    The very conservative border control says it is. And some experts have called it one of the most conservative immigration bills we have seen.
     
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    Allowing 5,000 illegal immigrants into our nation a day is pure garbage brought to you by democrats.

    We can do much better, the number should be absolutely zero.

    People need to follow the damn laws.
     
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    Thats false, it was bipartisan

    Do you think if you just keep repeating it over and over and over again that it will convince anyone that is not already on your side?

    That would be next to impossible

    They are following the laws, that’s the issue here. They are not coming here illegally they are using the asylum process

    And when you look at illegal immigration, the vast majority of them are visa overstays.
     
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    So which Republicans do you claim had a hand in writing it? That would be political suicide for any Republican to attach their name to

    And did you know coming here for economic reasons but lying and saying you're coming here to escape some sort of persecution is not a legal asylum claim?
     
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    Google is free
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna136602
     
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    You guys didn't think Trump's permanent separating children from their parents was child abuse so we sure as hell aren't going to take your word for it
    You don't know sh*t.

    Nothing you said refutes the following which is based on an in-depth analysis which does conclude child abuse among many other things.

    https://immigrationforum.org/article/bill-analysis-the-secure-the-border-act-of-2023/

    Not one democrat voted for HR2

    The senate bill led by a republican has bipartisan support.

    HR2 is DOA
     
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    So you couldn't provide a single instance of your claimed child abuse in any of the policy items in HR2.
    Thanks for the confirmation
     
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    Zero is impossible.

    Three billion dollars worth a durable goods cross the border every day you can't stop it

    Lots of peoples with passports who are legal cross the border you can't stop them

    You can't close the border get over it

    That doesn't mean we let everyone in

    Stopping illegal requires resources due to the high volume of crossings.

    Republicans think simplicitly, they say simply enforce the law. But what they don't realize in enforcing the law, given the volume, requires more resources than are available.

    Republicans don't want to allocate those resources therefore they are the source of the problem.
     
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    I don't have to the in depth analysis explains it and you can't refute the analysis Let alone take the time to read it.
     
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    I did read it and nothing in the policies of HR2 comes close to your bias propaganda.
    I even listed the policies in HR2.
    Which is why you can't provide a single instance in HR2 that supports anything you claim.
    Pretty simple really.
     
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    You act as though you cannot identify people crossing the border.

    If they cannot be identified then they do not get to cross. It's such a simple concept that you seem to be vastly overthinking.

    There's nothing remotely difficult about it.

    Would you open your door and allow a complete stranger inside or do you allow people inside when you know who they are?

    Your last sentence is a ridiculous denial of reality. Typical progressive projection
     
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    What is it with all these impeachments lately? Trump twice, Mayorkas now and possibly Biden down the road. All doomed to failure way before the party doing the impeachment even thought about impeaching these folks. Why? Were or are they just to please one’s political party’s base? With no chance of success, that probably is the reason. Or maybe it was done just to make a statement? But a statement to who? Again, it seems to be their partisan base. These impeachments were and are going nowhere. Maybe Mayorkas’s impeachment is just political revenge for the democrats impeaching Trump twice? Why go down this path when everyone in the world knows there’s not an iota’s chance of success? Perhaps it’s the very partisan prima donnas of both parties craving for the public’s attention? Or maybe even a vote for me and my party in the next election since these guys are so evil they must be impeached. The only thing I know is that these impeachments are doomed. If a vote for me and my party, perhaps a successful impeachment is the farthest thing from the impeachment party’s mind?
     
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    The crappy proposed immigration bill was bipartisan? Who gives a rat’s tail? It was a terrible piece of legislation that would have codified what the open borders Democrats want. The Democrats get droves of illegals, whom they perceive as future Democrat voters because of their dependence on government, with more money to process them.

    The Republicans get nothing. The border is supposed to be closed if more than 5,000 illegals cross the border. Who determines that? Will there be turnstiles on the border to count the illegals? Will Biden enforce the law if that is found to be true? Biden has a terrible record when it comes to enforcing immigration laws.

    A Chinese man crossed the border the other day saying he wanted a job. That IS NOT a legitimate reason for entering the country ACCORDING TO THE LAW.
     
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    The analysis demonstrates why HR2 is unacceptable.

    No Dem voted for it because it's immoral. Their zero vote proves it.

    Life is a two way street, border must be bipartisan.

    Senate Bill is bipartisan yet Speaker Johnson won't put it to the floor for a vote. It would pass,.

    So, Repubs own the border crisis.

    Simple.
     
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    Your analysis is a propaganda joke.
    If you could find any portion of HR2 that promotes child abuse, you would have posted it by now.
    But you can't so its on to excuses

    False
    They voted against HR2 because it does what they refuse to do

    So you thought the new bill which allows 1.8 million illegals into the country every year, that Republicans won't vote for,
    means Republicans don't care about the border crisis?
    I'm really curious. Do you actually buy into this stuff or just spew it out because of your own agenda?
     
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    HR2 is DOA.

    In order to get something done, it has to be bipartisan.

    The Senate bill it bipartisan. According to Republican Senator Lankford, 'this is the best conservative bill that Republicans could ever hope for from Democrats."

    Life is a two-way street, condor.

    If you can't compromise, you can't govern.

    This is why republicans are getting the reputation that they can't govern

    It's because their 'our way or the hi way' is not how to govern, there are two parties, this isn't a dictatorship.

    All of your arguments are therefore moot.
     
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    My arguments are only moot to those who don't have the ability to answer them.
    So now you can go run to the mods again.
     

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