How can republicans be pro life?

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  1. Kevo3

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    Lots of kids available in the US, I guess that's why many Americans look to adopt overseas.
     
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    I can get you 10 tonight. But they wknr be white perfect little babies
     
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    Yes, look it up, maybe just in your state alone...call and find out how many you could adopt !!!!!

    I have no idea why people adopt children form other countries, maybe it seems more goody two-shoes or maybe, like you, they are totally unaware of all these American kids wanting homes.

    Now, we could discuss adoption but like I said , women have NO obligation to supply other people with children,

    If you can refute that go right ahead but if you can't you'll probably just change the subject :)
     
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    Thank you for understanding my point.

    One person. Was this before 1973?

    Welfare and crime. It costs $30K/year to lock up a prisoner; walls, guards, food, etc. Better to nip the problem in the bud. You don't really think most abortions are by middle to upper class families, do you? It's not like rocket scientists and doctors are being aborted.

    https://www.guttmacher.org/infographic/2017/abortion-rates-income
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    I refer you to TV series Inspector Brunetti Episode 16 Year 2010 ~ Suffer the Little Children:

    16. Suffer the Little Children 2010


    The one about shady baby trafficking involving illegal immigrants. There are also strands featuring macho Carabinieri to be liaised with and softened up, a wealthy right-wing politician throwing money at life's problems and a dubious and self-righteous pharmacist. A full and twisty plot, then, to which the programme makers have added a weird sub-plot about Brunetti's daughter being switched at birth for three days and now wanting to meet the other mother and her daughter, the girl she was swapped up with. There's also some business about Patta going on a sabbatical and thinking everyone's going to be distressed at his departure. But most drastically a major murder element has been added too, to a story previously murder-free. The often jarring bits of added light relief are kept small this time, though, and the grit shines through in an episode allowed to be tragic - in some ways it's grimmer than the book. Locations, apart from the usuals, include Campo San Zanipolo, the Palazzo Molin (used in episode three above) and some pretty motor-boat rides down back canals. An interior purporting to be Palazzo Molin is pretty sumptuous too (see left) but as to whether it is actually this palazzo... Pedants might also wince when a meeting is arranged in Campo (not Piazza) San Marco.


    https://www.fictionalcities.co.uk/brunettitv.htm



    In this TV episode the characters discuss this problem of white children getting kidnapped and or sold to provide white couples with children that can be adopted.



    This problems also exists in Third World nations:

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/child...on-continues-despite-regulations_2464370.html



    All too often kids are kidnapped for adoption - as shown in that tv episode, the younger and whiter the child, the likelier he/she will get adoptive parents in the USA or Europe. European tv and news media are not afraid of addressing this problem. But this evil can be significantly reduced if self proclaimed "pro life" {sic} Republicans would adopt children in their own back yard rather than looking to these evil people in Europe or elsewhere to provide them with these children.
     
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    And if you somehow stopped abortion tomorrow how long would it take before you had overflowing orphanages and brain damaged children as happened in Romania!
     
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    And a great many of those children are black and come from drug addicted mothers so have "issues"
     
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    Although it's hard to know whether that's from their mother doing drugs or not
     
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    When the foetus has been exposed to multiple teratogens it is highly probable there will be problems
     
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    The toll of Zika virus has yet to be truly seen

    Zika causes microcephaly

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    Do you agree drug use during pregnancy should be illegal?
     
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    So lock up the mother and put the kid under the care of the welfare state?
     
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    What's your other proposed alternative? Tell her to abort because the babies have a high likelihood of being messed up anyway?

    Would you make her abort? Or would it all just be her choice?
     
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    The best way to reduce abortions is to reduce pregnancies. This is best done with education and access to effective contraceptives at cost.

    If someone has an unwanted pregnancy, then allow them access to an at cost abortion within the 24 week limit.
     
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    But you don't believe punishment should be used under any circumstances, with regards to crack babies being made.
    Am I correctly understanding you?
     
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    No, you are just jumping to conclusions. What is your solution? Lock up the mothers and raise the crack babies in taxpayer funded home for retarded babies?
     
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    Define "drug use"
     
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    So you don't have a solution.
     
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    Things that have a high likelihood of causing the baby to come out all twisted and mutated.
    Crack baby syndrome, and things like that.
     
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    Yes. Abortion and free suicide kits. Are you okay?
     
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    Actually the two "drugs" we have most information on are tobacco smoke and alcohol

    Are you going to stop all women everywhere from drinking?
     
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    I believe excessive binge drinking while pregnant should be a crime, yes.
     
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    So.......how are you going to enforce that please?

    Particularly since the vulnerable time is in the first three months

    Oh! And bad news

    Seems the boys play a role too!
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/02/140214075405.htm

    Yeppers FAS can be from either parent
     
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    This and smoking can hurt the unborn child and even make it come out with mental and health issues. This is not good for any mother carrying a child.
     
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    You could say that with almost any law.

    The simple fact is (and I don't think you'll disagree with me about this) it's wrong.
     
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