How is it that Barack Obama and his Birth certificate

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  1. Liquid Reigns

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    That's just it, in your opinion. Your opinion is based on defunct theory.

    Yes, and she is not a natural born citizen, she is simply a US Citizen.
     
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    It started on the right wing rag free republic in march 2008
     
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    NOPE. Cruz acquired his citizenship once he met the requirement of living in US jurisdiction for a set amount of time prior to becoming 16 YO. Had he not met that requirement he would not have acquired US Citizenship. you do understand the word acquired right and why it is used in the statutes, right? :roflol:
     
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    Which you clearly didn't read.

    And it has been clearly shown the origin was free republic. Neither comment in 2004 or 2007 even come close. As the author points out.
     
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    There are only two kinds of US citizenship.. natural born and naturalized.. Look at the inside cover of your passport.
     
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    Nope meh was a citizen at the time of his birth.

    he was born a citizen. The only requirement was a parent citizen.

    And all citizenship is acquired. Either at birth, or at some point after birth
     
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    You are mistaken.. Cruz was BORN a US citizen... He met the 14 year residency requirement to run for office quite separately..

    Look at the inside cover of your US passport.
     
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    No reason for liberals to want Cruz out of the race. He will only help them.
     
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    A lot of this stuff which comes to haunt a President like Obama this birther issue have their origins in the primaries. In this case by the Clinton campaign. I remember back to 1988 over the Willie Horton ads the Democrats pillared Bush about. But it was found that Al Gore first used Willie Horton in his radio ads during the primaries against Dukakis. The Republicans just latched onto it.
     
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    Short term memory loss ???

    Birther row began with Hillary Clinton

    The lie that Barack Obama was not born in the US has been fuelled by fringe Republicans — but supporters of Hillary Clinton, now Mr Obama’s Secretary of State, are largely to blame for starting it.

    The 'Birthers' Began on the Left
    Investigating the roots of the Obama birthplace conspiracy theory, Wingnuts author John Avlon uncovers the first Birther—and finds she’s a Hillary Clinton supporter also implicated in Dan Rather’s exit from CBS.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/08/the-secret-history-of-the-birthers.html

    Birtherism: Where it all began

    If you haven’t been trolling the fever swamps of online conspiracy sites or opening those emails from Uncle Larry, you may well wonder: Where did this idea come from? Who started it? And is there a grain of truth there?

    The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama...
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html#ixzz3cCh7nehs




    http://americanfreepress.net/?p=3688
     
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    :roflol: I gave you a direct quote form your own link that says you failed to comprehend what you r link is actually stating. :roflol:

    It was not "clearly shown", it was claimed because he didn't believe that the prior 2004 and 2007 comments were enough to peg comments like these as starting rumors about Obama’s birth..
     
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    No, there are only 2 SOURCES of citizenship, birth within the US or Naturalization. From WKA
    Ted Cruz had his citizenship conferred since he was foreign born to a US Citizen.

    The inside cover of my passport only states that I am a US National and a US Citizen.
     
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    NO, he was not. He was born a Canadian citizen in Canada, his US Citizenship wasn't enacted until he met the requirements to acquire it, living within the jurisdiction of the us prior to age 16.

    No he wasn't. A parent citizen is but one of the requirements to acquire.

    Exactly, some point after birth, which is when Ted Cruz acquired his, once he met the requirement of living within the jurisdiction of the US prior to age 16.

    You see, its not so hard to understand, its only taken you months to finally figure it out.
     
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    Cruz was not born a US Citizen, he acquired his US Citizenship after meeting the requirement of living within US jurisdiction prior to age 16. Go read the 1952 INA which pertains to Cruz's birth.
    The inside cover of the US Passport does not state one is natural born, it only states that one is either a US National or one is a US National/Citizen. Cruz didn't get his US Passport until he was 16.
     
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    Lets make this as simple as possible. Section 301(a) of the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. § 1401(a), defines those persons who "shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth." Paragraph (7) of § 301(a) includes in that definition a person born abroad "of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States" who has met specified conditions of residence in this country. Section 301(b), however, provides that one who is a citizen at birth under § 301(a)(7) shall lose his citizenship unless, after age 14 and before age 28, he shall come to the United States and be physically present here continuously for at least five years.

    No natural born citizen can lose his citizenship. Ted Cruz had to meet the requirements of Section 301(b), Cruz entered the US at age 4 and has continuously lived here since, he has his 5 consecutive years hear between the age of 14 and 28. He received a US passport when he was 16. Had he not met the requirement, his citizenship would have been lost and he would not be considered a US Citizen.

    Let me repeat that, NO natural born US Citizen can lose their citizenship, Cruz could have lost his had he not met the requirements.

    Now, from Wong Kim Ark
    So you are either born IN the US and become at once a citizen, or you are born abroad of a citizen for which you are a naturalized/conferred citizen. Ted Cruz was not born IN the US, his citizenship was conferred by Congress via Nationality Acts.

    Ted Cruz is not eligible to hold office.
     
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    Ted Cruz is not eligible to hold office. He is not a "natural-born" American citizen. He was born by C-section, not a "natural" form of birth. Therefore he is not eligible to hold office.

    (My feeble attempt to bring a little humor to the discussion)
     
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    WHO On Fox was talking about Obama being from Kenya.Name the host or show.
    Back up that Lie.I was upset that Fox refused to touch the Birther issue.
    I say you are Lying.
    Back up your claim that Fox was involved in birth certificate talk.
    Fox went out of their way to steer clear of any Birther talk.
     
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    The inside of your passport tells where you were born. My brother was born in Saudi Arabia in 1952 and his birth was registered at the US consulate within weeks.. He was "printed" and issued a US Passport .. He is considered a natural born US citizen... and so are the others.
     
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    So there you have it. Then all Mitch McConnell need do is ask his' fellow
    senate majority to demand that Obama turn over his passport.
    For verification.AND no DELAYS.
    If Obama delays handing over his passport treat him exactly as Obama
    gave marching order for his TSA. What goes around comes around.
    Turnabout is fair play.
     
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    LOL! That took all of three seconds. http://mediamatters.org/research/2011/04/20/fox-news-goes-full-birther/178860

    You're most welcome!
     
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    You cannot be serious.Sean Hannity makes a brief sentence or 2 statement
    when another guest brought up about Obama's BC and that is an entire
    show on the Birth certificate.
    Yer not lucid.I think Hannity has commented more on Kim Jong-un favorite
    food { swiss cheeses } than he has Obama's Birth certificate.
    leave it to the notorious Uber commie outfit { MediaMatters } who coincidentally
    attach themselves at the hip with the Hillary opposition research dirt machine
    known as - American Bridge who then pass on to the N.Y.Times for a headline.
    This from the same bunch of goons who actually were trying to hire private
    investigators to dig up dirt on ALL Fox employees,says Tucker Carlson.
    This was way back in Sept. of 2009.Since then David Brock has even
    publically admitted his uber desire to Oust Fox as a cable giant.
     
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    All of Obama'a ass kisser can protest, and call real Americans "birthers" or other names, but UNTIL Obama releases ALL of his information, we will continue to believe he is a hoax and liar.
     
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    You asked, I answered and now you're backpedaling and making excuses. That link shows FAR more than just Hannity.

    And 'communist'? LOL! Don't use words you don't understand.
     

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