How is the multiculturalism working...?

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    Native American mixed with Sefardic Jewish ancestry ~ simple enough even for you.

    As for your objection to multiculturalism, that's your business.
     
  2. Brewskier

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    Is that like Elizabeth Warren's native ancestry?

    Not really, my opinion on it is consistent, unlike yours. I'm simply trying to show that you can't reconcile the two. Multiculturalism, to the left, is only a good thing when brown people come to white areas, never the other way around.
     
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    The answer is Japan. Who simply does not allow people from Muslim countries to immigrate there. They don't have to get violent, they don't really say anything. They just quietly deny immigration to their country. Also if you commit a crime in Japan serious enough, they will deport you so fast and not a word about it.
     
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    Part of the problem is that France doesn't truly practice multiculturalism--they pretty much isolate the Muslims from the rest of French society, which makes it easier for terror cells to operate.
     
  5. Mr_Truth

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    People can get along if they choose to do so rather than succumb to race baiters like those in the right wing.
     
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    Working great for the Islamist's, the Aztec rapists, and other undesirable "cultures" destroying the culture that has made the modern advanced world possible.
     
  7. Lil Mike

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    How is multiculturalism working?

    Pretty much as planned I would say.
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    How about we stop digging a hole for ourselves and just stop importing new ones?
     
  9. Brewskier

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    Good point. When you think about who was responsible for this multicultural idea in the first place, I'd agree that this what they were hoping for.
     
  10. Alwayssa

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    Well, for starters, there are two famous mosques in Japan, one in Kobe and the other in Tokyo. With Islam, about 90% are foreign residents with 10% native population.
     
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    the goals are different. With multiculturalism, the main goal is for all cultures to mesh, read melting pot, and develop a culture that refects a multitede of cultures from within. For colonialism, the dominance is for one culture to influence all others in the foreign land to resemble, as close to, the culture of the home country. And for the record, we are all products of multiculturalism.
     
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    There is less than 1000 muslims in Japan. Total.
     
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    Are you going to sing the same tune when one of these "refugees" decided to bomb a school in the US?
     
  14. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Muslims can't even agree on what is correct. However some 14% of refugees support ISIS, soooooooooooo....


    They want the US to be more like Europe, we ought to start with immigration.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Nah, tax them out of the country.

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    Which the French imigration laws are far more restrictive than the US. They don't sign immigrants up for welfare the moment they cross the border.
     
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    The West always failed when it came to multiculturalism. Islam on the other hand can be multicultural and successful.
     
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    Fine except for a whole bunch of dumb, insecure, feeble, middle aged, frightened white idiots whining endlessly about it 24/7 but since they exclude themselves from all any any of it it makes no real difference.

    At least until they decide to go all Rusty Hauser.
     
  18. AlpinLuke

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    Proper "multiculturalism", that is to say a society where different cultures mix together "integrating" themselves in something which should be a kind of "container", cannot be.

    A culture is a coded language and when more cultures get in touch the result [like when more languages get in touch] can be or that one of them wins, becoming the dominating culture which integrates the other, or that they merge into a new third language.

    Think to Switzerland. That country has got 4 official language, but if you observe it Canton by Canton you will realize that in any region one language is predominant [in Italian Swiss they talk Italian overall, in German Swiss they talk German overall ...].

    With cultures it's the same, without an "over-culture" or a dominating culture it's impossible to create a "multicultural" country. You can obtain a country with "isles" of different cultures.

    No, the state has to be lay and accepted as "over-culture" by who comes [immigrants can carry their culture with them, but they have to realize that it has to accept to be not predominant, they have to acquire local culture, at least in its basic principals].

    A country is made by citizens, not "cultures".
     
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    How is the multiculturalism working...?

    Multicultural works only if both sides operate it correspondingly serious … and this is the major problem!
    Mutual recognition, consideration and respect are the basic requirements, without which one can forget the whole thing. Precisely for these things arise directly various conflicts and if they are not amicably being resolved or dissolved finally, it automatically creates incomprehension and reservation. This in turn caused discord and ultimately demarcation … and then we have the result which we have with “migration ghettos” which are a state in state and where it is even not really necessary to speak the local language of the country in which they are and live!

    Our Western, enlightened culture (Christian I let away, because religion here is only of secondary importance) impinges most on a centuries-old, tradition-conscious culture, which communicates with some or many of our values in conflict. The core issue question, which is itself derived from it as a solution: Who here has to adapt and to assume whose values?
    The answer is as simple as clear: It's always the guest who has to adapt here!

    Unfortunately, results from this requirement often existing on both sides misunderstanding that adaptation does not mean simply that the guest should abandon its cultural identity! But it does mean that the guest has to adept and accept the values of the host and that in turn means that it must also adapt some traditions and values which are not his own ... and so must maybe a (small) part of them give up under certain circumstances.

    Extreme, but in reality existing example:
    In some parts of the world the painful and dangerous circumcision of young women is culturally normal for centuries and until today, when not even there accepted without controversy. This is in clear contradiction to our values and laws and thus an immigrant and guest simply has to abandon this point ... or he should remain in his home country, no matter how dangerous it is there for him or in general. About this, there is nothing to discuss, and it has absolutely nothing to do with xenophobia etc.

    The Prussian King Frederick II (also called the Great) had brought it over 250 years ago to the point when it comes to the roles of host country and immigrants:
    "Everyone should be happy with his nature, religion and culture with us, as long as it complies with our values and as far as our laws are followed.”

    Multicultural means out of this at least, that several cultures enrich and enlarge a country, as far as they all comply with the core values and the laws … and as far all sides are willing to accept.
    Unfortunately this is a rare issue in the world, out of several reasons and for sure not in majority guilt of one side.
    Also, these “multicultural preachers” make a major mistake when they demand too much of the hosting population to accept and to understand, particularly when it is against the basic values.
     
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    It is more like 70,000 with many of them from Malaysia, Indonesia, and the Philippines. There are over 100 mosques in Japan alone. The two I gave are the two most famous mosques in Japan. The Kobe Mosque was built in the early 1900's. The Tokyo Mosque is the largest mosque in Japan.
     
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    Well, that is a misnomer. French immigration laws are more open than most European countries. Of course, being a member of the EU means having open borders with those who are also members of the EU. But with French immigration, their preference is to those who are affiliated with French colonialism. IT is somewhat easy for someone who lives in Algiers or Vietnam to immigrate to France than to the US under the same type of visa. And at the same time, two links were provided that destroyed your claim.
     
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    In Canada, where multiculturalism is embraced, it's working quite well. Toronto which is one of out most multicultural cities with a 50% foreign born population is very safe. In fact it's one of the safest large cities in the world (8th safest according to the Economist Intelligent Unit ranking).

    What works for Canada? Refugees are supported and face less discrimination. The government provides programs to help them to success. Churches, Mosques and Synagogues work together to help promote empathy.

    No system is perfect but we know caring for people who are refugees and immigrants gives us better results than making enemies of them.
     
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    in history, multi-culture means killing each other,
    those simple people (people who support multi-culture) will get what they ask for.
    The nature rule is always true for people, but these simple people (fools) do not know the world.


    chinese general Huang Chao killed all whites, all jews, all arabic people, all foreigners in china.
    Huang Chao - Wikipedia

    chinese king Ran Min killed all whites, all foreigners (over a million) in his country.
    Ran Min - Wikipedia

    manchus killed 50% of chinese.
    manchus ruled china for 300 years till 1911.
    Manchu conquest of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Ainu people were the first people live in Japan.
    Japanese were from mainland east asia.
    Ainu people were killed or enslaved.
    Ainu people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    china defeated Taiwanese aboriginals
    Chinese in Taiwan ate and traded in the flesh of Taiwanese aboriginals.
    Cannibalism, Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Doesn’t sound like any culture, just groups of people killing others. The most multicultural place I ever been to was in Africa. Maybe it's just by comparison, but this country really isn't all that multicultural.
     
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    Punitive taxes targetting a specific religion?

    Unconstitutional as (*)(*)(*)(*).
     

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