How many members would like a firearms discussion area

Unsupportable by any valid metric.

 

No.... you're not.

 

Free to do what ?
Lots of other things you lot cannot do.

You are right on one aspect of firearms, it is very hard to hide a gun if you wear skimpy clothes, bikinis, mini skirts, and thongs etc.....

 

To what extent are you considered free compared to the united states?

 

I would like to know too.
He seems to hate U.S. in any case.

 

Your comments made no sense at all.

The normal people in society are NOT murdering anyone, they are defending themselves from predatory Zombie like entitled minorities zoned out on Drugs.

White people are not murdering black people or people of color, those minorities manage that quite well on their own.

People need Guns to stop others from murdering them and robbing them.

So, you hate Our President.
Welcome to your American haters club.

 

More often than not, according to all available data made public by the FBI, which is the chief law enforcement agency for the entire united states, the vast majority of murders in the united states, at least eighty percent or more, are not being committed by individuals who legally own firearms. To the contrary, they and a majority of all other crimes, are instead being committed by individuals with existing criminal records that legally disqualify them from possessing a firearm under any circumstances. These are individuals with known ties to violent gang-based organizations, and who possess extensive records for felony convictions for a myriad of charges that include murder, human trafficking, drug trafficking, firearms trafficking, conspiracy, witness intimidation, sexual assault, terrorism, stalking, and a wide variety of other offenses that are committed against members of the public.

The reason these individuals are able to procure firearms, and continue committing at least eighty percent of the murders in the united states, is because they are continually released back into society where they can do the most harm. They are confined in prisons for almost no time at all, before being turned loose, no matter how many times they prove beyond all reasonable doubt that they cannot and will not abide by the rules of society. No matter how many deaths they are linked to, no matter how many firearms they may traffic, nothing keeps them confined for more than a minor handful of years. They only stop once they are killed by a rival criminal, a law enforcement officer, or a member of the public defending themselves against such crimes being perpetrated on them.

No matter what law is proposed regarding firearms in response to these criminal actions, it makes no difference, because they are almost never enforced. Just recently in the united states, an individual was prosecuted for knowingly trafficking numerous firearms to prohibited individuals, despite the firearms being licensed to them. At least one of the firearms was used in the murder of a law enforcement officer. Under federal law in the united states, every firearm trafficked carries a sentence of ten years. Yet the responsible individual was given only one year of probation, and fifteen days of community service.

Firearm-related restrictions in the united states were originally implemented for the sole purpose of keeping minorities unarmed, and thus unable to resist either forceful relocations, being terrorized, or just general violence being committed against them. This was done either outright by the restrictions stating that only whites could own firearms, or through the requirements being financially impossible for minorities to comply with. This is seen even today, such as in the city of New York, where the paperwork necessary to own a handgun costs as much as the handgun itself.

All a politician is, is someone who sells a message, by telling the people what they want to hear. Politicians have little in the way of real world skills, and are specialized in the arts of lying and trickery.

 

and what country do yo claim to come from. free men own firearms. subjects and slaves do not

 

'The reason these individuals are able to procure firearms, and continue committing at least eighty percent of the murders in the united states, is because they are continually released back into society where they can do the most harm. They are confined in prisons for almost no time at all, before being turned loose, no matter how many times they prove beyond all reasonable doubt that they cannot and will not abide by the rules of society. No matter how many deaths they are linked to, no matter how many firearms they may traffic, nothing keeps them confined for more than a minor handful of years. They only stop once they are killed by a rival criminal, a law enforcement officer, or a member of the public defending themselves against such crimes being perpetrated on them.

In countries not awash with bang-bangs, this doesn't happen. Why is this, do you suppose?

 

My policy of putting all new trolls who do not have an avatar to go with their moniker on iggy is again reinforced.

I rest my case.

 

Only the USA and Switzerland allow their citizens universal gun ownership.

The Israelis carefully regulate and in the process deny most of theirs from having guns.

That's a short list then.

206 listed nations.

195 of whom are undisputed.

2 (USA and Switzerland) have universal gun rights and as such true freedom.

The rest of the world is comprised of slaves.

 

How, pray tell, can we disarm the criminals?

 

If you're suggesting a gun ban, I would suggest you take a deeper look at the protections to the right to keep and bear arms in the US. Those obstacles to such a plan are real and must be taken into account.

 

So, whinging, not actual solutions.

 

Good news!
That's not going to happen!
No matter now much you want it to!

 

I applaud your mastery of unsupportable nonsense.
You'll fit right in with the other anti-gun loons.

 

The brainwashed one here isn't me. Sorry to break the news to you. You just don't comprehend what true Freedom is. Sheep are never happier than when they're safely penned, totally "free" from danger.

 

Empty, self-serving rhetoric... and the obvious refuge of the sheep.

 

lets see, someone who worships Eurosocialism in a has been nation is calling another poster "brainwashed". after Britain's pathetic collective bed wetting in response to Dunblane I sort of figure Britain deserves whatever it gets in terms of terrorist attacks where the sheeple have been disarmed by a cowardly government and cannot fight back

 

the fable of Aesop's fox is evident here and a fox who had his tail cut off (and loves it) by a decadent effete government now tries to tell free men that they are better off being eunuchs.

 

Lets see-I believe you posted you are over 70. I am 58 and have years of martial arts training. My son is 19, lightning fast, a black belt and shoots constantly. SO if he were to try to victimize someone your age, you'd stand no chance of surviving without a gun. SO your bravado about being a tough guy just doesn't cut it. Getting rid of guns means young men will make you their punk. people who shoot others in the back are cowards and hope for the sort of gun laws that the eunuchs in Europe live under. it makes their lives safer when victims cannot fight back

 

If such is indeed the case, feel free to demonstrate such as being fact. So far nothing has been presented on the part of yourself except for your own assertion, which is not in any way even close to evidence.

You have presented the argument that only countries with a significant number of firearms in circulation are prone to the issues plaguing the justice system in the united states. Prove your argument as being factual. Prove that no other country is in the habit of resolving criminal cases through plea bargains rather than trials because it is expedient. Demonstrate that no other country does not seek the maximum possible charges against a guilty party to insure they face the maximum punishment for the actions. Prove that you are not simply making things up.

Name calling, offenses, and the lack of an actual response has been noted, as well as reported.

And pray tell where is the demonstration of logic on the part of yourself? You come to the forums not to engage in anything resembling an open, honest, and legitimate debate or discussion pertaining to facts, but rather to hurl insults at anyone and everyone that does not agree with you.

 

A festival of who flung dung.

 

More accurately, it has been discovered on the part of yourself that you are up against opponents with far greater levels of understanding on the subject being discussed, as well as intellectual capacity than yourself, and your petty insults can do nothing to compensate for the shortcomings possessed by yourself. Nothing has been demonstrated by yourself, except the nearly constant childish reference of "bang bangs" and lobbing insulting terms about without hesitation.

If no effort is going to be invested on the part of yourself, do not bother with wasting the time of others.

 

You seem to be conflating pro 2A members with creationists and racists. That's a logical error on your part.