How Trump Could Stink Less.

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Narcissism, arrogance and incompetence are never endearing attributes (except to a groveling cult of personality, of course), but is it right to focus so much on his personal offensiveness?

    Would Trump’s numbers be less abysmal if he were to
    embrace American values and reflect the popular will?

    Wouldn’t that evoke a more favorable attitude from decent Americans?







     
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    The TDS is strong in this one Luke!
     
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    The question is when will some one actually start doing something about his being a problem? All this damage he's initiating and no one is doing a damn thing about it except complain.
     
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    The biggest gripe I have with the so-called president is how he divides us. He has made ZERO effort to reflect the fact that the MAJORITY of votes cast WERE AGAINST HIM.
    He is deaf to all wishes except his own.
    He is still in campaign mode - not addressing issues, but visiting pockets of deluded people who feed his ego. He shuts off any dissenting voices, and listens only to yes-people.
    He and the GOP only attack and hate.

    Our country desperately needs to heal - I think there are still some items that could be agreed upon - Infrastructure - is one - It was the ONE thing I heard the buffoon say that I agreed with - we needed a massive infrastructure project - something I and the democratic party would get behind, but instead he focuses on stripping health insurance from people who got it for the first time in their lives.

    With sane, decent leadership, we could become the leader in clean energy, the wave of the future. Instead, we have a regime looking backward to the dark days of coal.

    The man is such a despicable phony, and the fools who back him defy logic - they buy into the illusion that "real 'mercans" don't live in the "pockets of civilization" - like cities, and have to kick cow pies to be real men, yet they follow a con man that is a product of NEW YORK CITY - second only, perhaps, to Washington as being the modern Sodom/Gomorrah to the rubes - and they skip the fact that New Yorkers, the ones who know him best, sensitized to con-men - soundly rejected him.

    I am troubled by what I am witnessing. It reminds me of the dark days of Nixon.
     
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    When you can't argue with the facts......
     
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    "He is deaf to all wishes except his own.
    He is still in campaign mode - not addressing issues, but visiting pockets of deluded people who feed his ego. He shuts off any dissenting voices, and listens only to yes-people."

    That's all anyone ever needed to know about Donald J Trump.

    Yes, he is still in campaign mode. He has never been a manager. He is a promoter. He doesn't care what he's promoting, unless it's putting money in his pocket.

    And yes, he does run to his psycophantic fan base for reassurance. He plans to do so again on the night of the White House Correspondant's Dinner.
     
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    True, TDS is a fact. The panty bunching hysterical whining is hard to miss!
     
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    Nah, it just means that the the turd polishing rags needed time for a wash.
     
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    If Trump turned around and became a typical global socialist (Gazi), you would all sing his praises and defend everything he's ever done. Trump would become a media super star and loved by the world, all he has to do is sell out America.
     
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    Once the august and intrepid PENCE COMMISSION gets its act together and rounds up the 3-5 million dastards who donned invisibility cloaks to cast bogus ballots against the Messiah, that FAKE expression of the popular will shall be expurgated from the record.

     
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    No, many would still acknowledge he's a stinker, even if he embraced the popular will, but it would help him.
     
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    The people who worship and defend Bill Clinton and attack his victims, would have no problem suddenly defending Trump if it benefited them politically. They don't even have to attack Trump's victims because there are none.

    I don't think the "will" you're talking about is nearly as popular as you think. The media can make anyone look widely hated like they do with Trump, or loved and adored like they do with Bill Clinton. Can you imagine what they would of done to Monica Lewinsky if she didn't keep the dress as proof?
     
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    You people are the ones that are divided.
     
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    Conversely, the left has made ZERO effort to reflect the fact that they LOST, according to the actual rules of the game. You act as if a tiny margin in the popular vote somehow invalidates the actual rules to which each candidate campaigned in their attempt to win. Neither of them had a strategy aimed at winning the popular vote, and the final popular vote tally was close enough that a different campaign strategy could have potentially changed that outcome.

    Nobody cares that the Dallas Cowboys gained a few more yards than the Steelers; the only thing that matters is the actual score.
     
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    But we ARE the majority.
     
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    Approximately THREE MILLION is not a tiny margin.
    The winning of the electoral college was a fluke. You cannot expect anybody to believe it was planned.
    We are accepting the fact we have a so-called president better than than the GOP accepted Obama - who won the popular vote as well as electoral college decisively. Turtle-man McConnell announced opposition before anything had been proposed by Obama.
     
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    Nobody cares that the Dallas Cowboys gained a few more yards than the Steelers; the only thing that matters is the actual score. If total yards gained were the rules in place, they may not have killed the clock in the 4th qtr preserving their lead. You cant come in after the fact and pretend like anything matters, OTHER than the FINAL SCORE. Prattling on endlessly about total yards, is the sole domain of a sore loser that cannot except the fact that they LOST.
     
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    The problem is that this yoyo is pretending that he came into office with a mandate, which we all know that he most certainly did not. There is also that Tyrannosaurus Rex in the room of his uncountable conflicts of interest so only he and his cronies know why particular policies and decisions are made and we have to be skeptical due to so much subterfuge. And the looming outcome of three investigations, which IMO the result of, take precedence over everything.

    So, in answer to your question...an emphatic "No". I do not believe that decent Americas will ever really be taken in by or trust this fraud nor do I believe he will ever do anything other than fulfilling his personal mission, which is to do what is best for himself and those that he is beholden to. Your shot at optimism is duly noted though.
     
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    To follow your football analogy (so you can grasp it)
    I acknowledge the loss of the election, but it was an upset, it was not a romp.
    It was a squeaker, it was not a rout.
    I was correcting your adjectives - for you to say nearly 3 million votes is a tiny amount is farcical.
    The better team lost - we get it.
     
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    It doesn't matter, you LOST. The fact that you outgained your opponent by 15 yards couldn't possibly be more irrelevant. For that matter total yards gained isn't included in the calculus of how big of a loss it was. What determines the size of the loss, is the actual score. The actual score in this one wasn't really all that close. Your side wasn't a Hail Mary pass away from pulling this one out.
     
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    I just enjoy that it eats at Trump's huge ego that he LOST the popular vote ("biggly"). I know it bothers his ego, and that makes me happy.
    He can spin it all he wants, but he is a LOSER.
    For another sports analogy, he has the title, but fans know the officials made a bad call.
     
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    If you mean California 1 state with 55 EV's. Still, 30 states to 20 is a majority.

    Then why all the complaining about EO's?
     
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    What exactly are "American Values" ?

    Exactly who decided what were American values ?

    Mexicans ? Peter Puffers ? Muslims ? Democrat National Committee ? Jeremiah Wright ? George Soros ? A Nasty Woman ?

    Been hearing the phrase "American values" being thrown around a lot lately especially by "blame America first" PC liberals.

    I turn on the "California Channel" and watch the California state legislature and what do I see ? Mostly first generation Americans bashing Trump who have very short roots in America, mostly children of immigrants who held on to their parents politics that they brought with them when they climbed over the fence and they are telling me what American values are !!!

    According to the left, being a nation of laws isn't an American value.
     
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    How Trump Could Stink Less?

    To liberals he would have to go FULL Bruce Jenner and change his name to Hillary.
     
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    As long as you have admitted that your premise is bogus and even you don't REALLY believe what you are saying, then I am content. My job is done here. As far as the meaningless petty bickering that you enjoy that it eats at his ego, that's not my bag. I will leave you to what you do best.
     
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