Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    the union killed Hostess. Their work rules and refusal to see their true market value drove up costs and the company was no longer competitive.

    It would behoove you to understand how unions hurt workers, not help. 18,500 lost their jobs because they over-estimated their value. Hostess is back to being a $billion brand and well managed without unions

    http://brandchannel.com/2016/05/26/hostess-052616/
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Hillary stiffed Huma for the bill and you think that's a defense? Typical.

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    And pad the bills.
     
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    Amazing these deep thinking liberals consider Trump's debt & business dealings so horrid but can't grasp the impact of Obama running up trillions of $$$ in debt or see any problem with allowing millions of low skilled/un-screened illegals into the country all while defending/denying the ACA's negative financial impact on the "little guy".
     
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    Well, let's see, your reasoning for calling these hundreds of contractors all parasites: they are suing a rich guy. Not the strongest argument, but okay. Here are some major problems with that argument:

    - Trump has openly bragged about delaying payment on his debts to try to negotiate paying less than he owes
    - There are those records that were released showing the Trump didn't pay his bills to his contractors in full/on time (*gasp* maybe forged by the same people that forged Obama's birth certificate?)
    - Trump's companies have declared bankruptcy several times, which makes the whole "not paying the bills" scenario pretty likely
    - It looks like Trump and his companies settled to pay in some of these cases . . . and we both know how Trump feels about settling cases that he's sure he can win

    Now, the reasons I call Trump a parasite are:

    - Trump has openly bragged about delaying payment on his debts to try to negotiate paying less than he owes
    - Trump has openly bragged about abusing our bankruptcy system, and other aspects of the system, for his own profit
    - Trump used a bank bailout to get out of personal debt
    - If frivolous lawsuits constitute, as you claim, parasitism (and I agree that they do), we can't ignore Trump's own history of frivolous lawsuits
    - Trump's response to accusations of parasitism have essentially consisted of either "Look how shrewd I am" or "Other people do it too!"
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you don't think they are the ones padding bills to take the rich dude for a ride? Give it a rest.
    If somebody is running as a republican and they are wealthy you go after them like Daddy Warbucks, but if it's a democrat like Kerry who tries to get away with not paying taxes on his Yacht you ignore the **** out of it.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you make all of these baseless assertions without a single citation of sources.
    I call bullcrap.
    And don't give me some garbage from the "diverse" Huffpo.
     
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    so if at mcdonalds they have a tip jar.. you tip?

    not saying who ever paid for her should not of tipped, I am just saying many do not know they should tip at fast food restaurants

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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, management killed hostess, nice try though

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/25/business/la-fi-hiltzik-20121125
     
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    I agree but not for the reason you may think. How could management allow it that 2 trucks needed to go to the same exact convenience store when both trucks departed from the same bakery location? One would carry bread products and the other the tasty confections because union labor rules demanded it.

    Management should have busted the union long ago but so be it. The brand is better today than ever and workers now have non-union jobs pumping out more volume and I think the number of employees is 1/3 what it was when it was union

    Again, a little education, not agenda would do you well.
     
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    A lot of places don't offer the tip line on the receipt

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    So a smaller workforce is good? Then why are you always posting links about businesses cutting employees?

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    Who knows? Maybe it was her turn to pay.
     
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    There is no expectation of tips at Chipolte, which is a fast food joint.
     
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    that was not the issue, the issue was management spent the employees pensions and as more and more retired, they could not afford to pay their pensions like they promised

    Again, a little education, not agenda would do you well.

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    How predictable; another 'look over there' post.

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    Only 'liberals' go to college?

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    When did tipping become paying a bill?

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    253 didn't do a good job? Seriously?
     
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    I suggest that you read the facts. Why were costs so high?
     
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    It was probably a gay plot. What do you think?
     
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    I always always tip ...overtip in fact. I think many food services people work hard. Every now and then you get a lazy f'r in which case I tip much less.

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    Then I ask if tipping is allowed.

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    Not from a leftist....that we know. The only pockets they reach into are someone elses.
     
  19. randlepatrickmcmurphy

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    Do they even have waitresses or waiters at Chipotle? I've never seen any. You just go up to the counter and they slop their disease-tainted food onto your tray. No waitresses.
     
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    More desperation from the 'never Trumpers' :roll:
     
  21. In The Dark

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    Just so we're clear, this is nothing but deflection.

    Simply affirm that you're OK with the article, assuming it's reasonably true, and that your assessment of Trump doesn't waver with the inherent scumbaggery of these practices. Because it sure sounds like you have bought in.

    Don't worry about being honest with me. Be honest with yourself.
     
  22. randlepatrickmcmurphy

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    Larry Klayman doesn't count. He sues everybody.
     
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    C O N T R A C T

    Google it.
     
  24. In The Dark

    In The Dark Well-Known Member

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    I've been #NEVERTRUMP for about a year now and I know for sure that the Cult doesn't give a crap about facts or sources or logic or general cognition. They FEEL. Like the Obama drones of 2008. So sad,
     
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    I've literally NEVER heard anyone claim Clinton was for the little guy.
     

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