I believe the Media is orchestrating premeditated outrage once the President is exonerated

Racing toward completion to be sure. Success? I'm not so sure. In the end I think the whole thing will help Trump more than it helps the democrat nominee.

 

The "success" is the unjustified stain on his historical record.

 

Use a dictionary on occasion.

Definitions matter. And you're the one that tried to claim something that didn't in fact exist. Trying to backpedal into it being irrelevant is not helping you "whoop" my "ass" in this debate.

"“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” "

I see no where in that the says anything about obstruction of Congress.

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Still nothing that says anything about obstruction of Congress. Nor does it say anything about having to cooperate with impeachment.

And guess what, executive privilege is a part of the Constitutional process. And in case you didn't know Executive privilege allows the President to withhold information from Congress even in the face of a subpoena, even George Washington refused to give Congress information in the face of a subpoena. Though it wasn't called executive privilege at the time it is considered as such by scholars of today. There are two ways in which a President can or must release such information that is deemed to be protected by executive privilege. Either through negotiations with Congress or through a court order. If the Dems in the House had not rushed impeachment then they could have used the courts to force Trump to relinquish all the information that they requested. It was their choice to not do so. If the courts had sided with Congress, and Trump still refused then that would be a legitimate cause for "obstruction of Congress" and an impeachable offense....at least by precedent set by previous impeachment hearings. But with current Democrats broad ranging definition pretty much anything would have fit. Including numerous other past Presidents use of Executive Privilege. Which they sure didn't seem to mind with Obama or Clinton or numerous other Democratic Partied Presidents.

The lack of understanding isn't on my side. It's on yours. I'll bet you didn't even know about what I said about George Washington did you? Look up the history of the Jay Treaty and Washington if you don't believe me.

Nothing in your post was educational. So no need to use any of it.

 

If staining someone is the definition of success then I feel sorry for you.

 

Er...

You can feel sorry for them.

 

I don't feel sorry for them. They did it.

 

How do you know he won't be impeached?

 

Yeah.... I see your debating style is "one dimensional". And that's not an attack or anything. It's just a description of the way people think and learn. It's part of one's evolution in learning. In the one-dimensional phase of human learning, things need to be said explicitly. So if a paragraph doesn't say the word "obstruction", a person in this phase won't grasp what the quote you mention has to do with obstruction. It's the same mindset that leads you to debate in terms of "definitions". The second dimension of learning involves "inference", the ability by which a person who doesn't see "obstruction" but sees "preserve, protect and defend" can infer the relationship, Three dimensional thinking adds "deduction", which allows human beings to obtain completely new information from known inferences.

This explanation might have been a bit elevated, but the bottom line is that we're in different dimensions. You are on dimension one, and insist on debating definitions, and insist on seeing a word exactly as you imagine it, without variations or mental references. I'm trying to explain this to you in a second dimension, but you seem to refuse to evolve to it. I'm not saying you're not capable, you probably just refuse to.

But we hope to have these debates using three-dimensional thinking. At a minimum. Because there is also fourth-dimensional thinking, which is what some call "out of the box" thinking. But you refuse to go to two, so.... what can I say other than... Good luck!

Sounds like Trump when he said "very few people know this, but Lincoln was a Republicans"

Read my sig. I doubt you will ever say anything I don't already know.

If you are ever curious as to why Trump is guilty and must be removed, feel free to re-read my previous post. All the information you will ever need to understand why is on it.

Thanks for playing..
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Premeditated? I got some premeditated for you.
I already don't believe the next accuser of President Trump's next nominee to the SCOTUS.
I already don't believe democrat claims about voter suppression in the 2020 election
I already believe John Durham.

 

A lot of words with absolutely no content towards what was actually said. Not surprised.

 

Strange you didn't say that when I posted this. I hate Trump because I tell the truth? Can you question any of these statements. Can anyone? The OPer thinks the media is responsible for all this. The media simply reports what it sees.

At Helsinki I didn't reject American intelligence and side with Putin because he sounded sincere. Trump did.

I didn't remove the U.S. from the Iranian nuclear agreement, freeing up Russia's ally to resume nuclear research. Trump did.

I didn't unilaterally declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel and move the American embassy there, causing the U.S. to be removed as a broker in Middle East talks to be replaced by Russia. Trump did.

I didn't declare climate change to be a Chinese hoax and remove the U.S. from the Paris Accord where 197 nations are fighting global warming. Trump did. Russia is a major emitter.

I didn't order a retreat in Syria, causing the deaths of hundreds and causing thousands to abandon their homes, while allowing Russian troops to occupy American bases and increasing Russia's influence in the Middle East and reducing ours. Trump did. Fortunately, the Pentagon is overruling Trump and undoing much of the damage he caused, but the Pentagon can't bring people back from the grave or rebuild people's homes.

I am not creating havoc within the federal government, Articles of Impeachment, Senate trial, while our congressmen and Senators are at each other's throats. Trump is.

I could go on, but I am sure readers get my point.

You said the Constitution does not define the three branches of our government. To be honest, I don't know where to begin. Your statement was really weird.

 

Dirty Donald may be found not guilty in his impeachment trial but just like Bill Clinton he will NEVER BE EXONONERATED.

 

Wasn't the Billy Bush tape supposed to be the beginning of the end for Trump?

 

Bill Clinton's impeachment articles were actual crimes he committed. He perjured himself before a federal judge, and suborned perjury, those are actual crimes; not personal opinions based upon biased speculation or rumor.

Pelosi's impeachment articles against Trump don't cite any crimes. They contain only biased partisan Democrat assumptions, speculations and opinions, not fact, not fact based evidence for violations of federal statutes.

You cannot exonerate a person if they are not guilty of any crimes.

 

No, the media doesn't "simply reports what it sees". It also twists and spins to create a narrative. Show me any actual NEWS article from CNN or MSNBC or FOX and I'll show you opinions in them.

Yawn. Old news.

Oh puhleeze. Iran wasn't going to hold up their end of the bargain in the end anyways and anyone using their brain would have known that. There were too many loop holes in that agreement that would have made it quite easy for Iran to continue making nukes behind everyone's backs once the dust settled and people became complacent.

Actually he just kept a promise on this one. A promise that Obama, Bush, and Clinton made but never upheld.

Good. We're not the Worlds Charity.

War sucks doesn't it? We needed to get out of there anyways. Trumps only fault on that is that he did it in a haphazard rushed way.

Creating havoc? Such as?

I never said that. Try reading what I said again. This time be sure to pay attention to what I am responding to.

 

I can't remember. The Dems have has sooooooooooooooooo many 'This time we've got Trump for sure!" events that after a while they all merge into one gigantic pile of leftist political cluster -- er -- sex-up.

 

Yup.

 

Mitch McConnell said there was ZERO chance of the Senate voting for impeachment.

I look forward to the President having a chance to clear his name.

And letting the Democrats see what they get for making deals with devils.

 

I know he will be impeached. So what?

 

Even when the Democrats in the News media think they are being fair, and objective, they make sure to taint the news topic they are about to cover. They will start out by describing any Republican politician as "right-wing," and any Republican initiated policy proposal as "controversial." This way their audience is already primed with malice and hate to prejudge the Republican, and disagree with whatever policy they propose. Then, to make sure the audience is assured that it's not just the reporter or news anchor's biased opinion of Republicans, they will toss in "most critics" agree with them.

This is what the folks at ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, et al, view as fair, honest and objective news reporting, just ask Wolf Blitzer or Don Lemon.

 

It will be a straight line party vote to impeach, and bipartisan vote to not impeach.

Everyone who possesses an objective thought in their head will comprehend that from the very beginning, the Democrats in the House were and still are, driven by hatred for Trump.

 

Lindsey Graham on Bill Clinton's impeachment trial.

 

Prove it. Provide a link from any respected news source that "twists and spins" the impeachment issue or any other important issue in today's news.

 

Of course. Are you saying the Republicans don't tilt the news in their favor?

That's being done by the politicians, not the news media. The media simply reports what the politicians say. That is their job.