I got your 'it's not in the constitution' right here

States cannot legislate prohibition of rights protected by the Bill of Rights. Again the right to bodily autonomy is protected by the 9th Amendment.

 

It is not in the Bill of Rights.

The other view is that is not the woman's body. It is a new human.

Compromise.

 

The 9th Amendment is not in the Bill of Rights? Since when?

 

And blue is not really blue. If it's not the woman' body whose is it? The government's? And here I thought this was the "land of the free". I understand you're ok with slavery, I'm not.

 

It is not a right to do anything someone wants to do.

Compromise.

 

You are making stuff up.

 

If the protected right to bodily autonomy is not a right to you then you believe in slavery. There is nothing in the Bill of Rights that allows any compromise of any kind.

Nope, see above.

 

You are making stuff up.

 

Unfortunately I'm not. You can repeat yourself as many times as you like but it doesn't change the facts. Those who want the government to have control over the bodies of women or the lifestyle of others such as same sex marriage or health care choices to name a few are really saying they believe in slavery.

 

Your logic is faulty. One belief does not automatically mean that other similar beliefs are automatic. Your logic would be similar to me accusing you of believing in murder because it is believed that abortion is murder.

I don't believe you believe in murder.

I do not have a firm position of abortion. I believe both sides have a valid argument and both sides are sincere in their beliefs. That is why I believe getting rid of Roe vs Wade is a better than the alternatives. It leaves it up to the legislature and the citizens. I understand that this will not work for many people because they live in a state which does not fit with their beliefs. However, that appears to be as close as we can get to satisfying everyone.

 

The legislature is not the citizens, it's government. Government doesn't represent me whether it agrees with my philosophy or not. And BTW neither do "citizens". When government has the power to legislate bodily autonomy it has the power of enslavement. And if you believe government has that power, then there is nothing wrong with my logic, you believe in slavery. There is no alternative and no compromise.

 

Why do you vote if you believe those elected don't represent you?

 

Yes I is under "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". Without breathing you cannot have life. If someone stops your ability to breathe then THEY are in violation of the Constitution.

Abortion is not mentioned.

 

Just like your "common sense" gun laws. That term is thrown around as if sense is common! BTW, firearms do not need to be purchased.

 

The last time I voted was not because I believe any of these phony self serving politicians represent me or anyone else. It was to try to get rid of a psychopath. I would have voted for a rock if it would have achieved the same result. The last time I voted before that was almost a half century ago when I was young and naive.

 

1. I already noted I was being sarcastic.

2. You are quoting the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

3. The 9th Amendment protects ALL unenumerated rights. If they listed all of them it would be almost the size of a dictionary. The protected right to an abortion and breathing and farting are just some of those covered by the 9th Amendment.

 

Seeing as how you have a cynical perspective of politicians in general it makes little sense to vote against one. But, you're not alone. Millions of Biden voters didn't vote for him because of his policy positions -- they voted for him just because he wasn't Trump. Those that are suffering as a result of his policies wish you stay home in 2024 - please.

 

Except abortion is not a right unless the PEOPLE say it is. Declaration of Independence, Constitution....po-tah-to, po-tay-to.

 

Wow.


I'm gonna let you edit that before the real comedy begins.

 

That is a very ignorant conclusion.

I believe there are two sides to the question. You believe there is only one side dictated by the government. You believe in dictatorship.

 

But the salient point is that those who assert Roe v Wade is not in the constitution is the reason why it's being repealed, note that the authority which gives the court the authority to repeal it is also not in the constitution. That refutes that argument.

MOreover, the argument which was used for granting the court the authority of judicial review, which is basically, 'if one thing is true, then the other must be true', was used in granting women the right to abortion. The court has ruled that the right to privacy is a penumbra and therefore enumerated right in several of the amendments, and if that is true, acts of privacy must be included, such as abortion and bodily autonomy (which is the argument against mandatory vaccination, a plight with which I agree with, except for pandemics and endemics).

 

Roe v Wade is no longer the law of the land. Get used to it.

 

As much as I can't stand Biden I would do it again a thousand times to get rid of that inhuman scum. Unfortunately the alternatives were all marginalized so there was none. We will all suffer either way. Fascism isn't the type of government I will ever vote for or allow if I can help it. Especially not headed by a deranged piece of garbage.

 

It was comedy. Read my posts.

 

Utter nonsense. Learn to read for comprehension.