I hope a GOD exists but I am not holding my breath!

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    As I said.....either you are not a Priest or were kicked out or perhaps at the least you are not a very good one.

    A good Priest DOES NOT JUDGE....and he listens and learns all he can.

    AA
     
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    You have no idea of what you are talking about. You really don't. The most amazing thing is that you, like everyone else here, apparently think that having an opinion makes you an expert.

    The only real difference between myself and any other priest is that I have said the kinds of things they will not say to your face, and maybe not behind your back, but they do think it. A priest whose stipend depends on his congregation is not going to engage in theological debates with them. He may say it once if he says it at all, but he is not going to argue with you.

    People who think they know what Priests are thinking are laughably naive, because I DO know a lot of priests myself, enough to know that you know nothing about them.

    The difference between me and them is that I owe you nothing and you owe me nothing so I can speak the truth. A thinking man might take this little bit of free education and use it, but you are clearly not a thinking man, you are a guy with an ego and an inflated sense of his own infallibility.
     
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    Above alpha you say have look in all places right ?
    Have you looked into the Nde scientific literature ?

    If ndes are real then they actually do present good evidence for the existence of God .
    If ndes are real then you would read through dr Jeffrey longs research (former atheist now spiritual pantheist ) and you would be forced to conclude the incredible commonalities of nders across cultures seeing this being of light they describe as the creator .

    If you then conclude cultural conditioning you would then have to research Melvin Morris Nde research into the ndes experienced by children too young to be culturally conditioned yet they also see the being of light

    Above alpha I doubt you have looked seriously into ndes

    Another common theme most of them experience e is that the being of light gives off a love that is indescribable with mere human words
     
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  5. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Yeah!!!

    You posted this......"People who think they know what Priests are thinking are laughably naive, because I DO know a lot of priests myself, enough to know that you know nothing about them."...end quote It's just me.

    Your RIGHT because there are a LOT of ALTER BOY'S and their PARENTS were thinking and saying the exact same thing after their child was raped!!! LOL!!!

    AA
     
  6. AboveAlpha

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    OK.....listen....years ago because of EGO and because I and my Team had a 100% Success Rate I made a really STUPID and bad decision which led to the biggest mistake of my life.

    I was shot three times in the chest at close range and although I wore a vest because of the close range there was ballistic penetration and I went down hard.

    My Team saved me and I even ended the SOB who shot me as it took everything I had to roll over onto my stomach and balancing my rife on my 2nd's back leg I ended the SOB with a head shot.

    We were deep in country and the enemy was playing the game of wounding a few and then following us to see where we went and to what villages we might get help from of if we had any hidden supply areas.

    I only took a half dose of Synth-Morph as I knew what they were doing and my sniper teams took out all the enemy we saw.

    16 hours of HELL....pain like you could never imagine.....but we got to the extraction point and they gave me a full dose of painkiller at the chopper and my heart and lungs stopped working.

    I was clinically dead for a short time before they brought me back and it was just like sleeping without dreaming.

    No tunnel...no bright light...no life flashing before my eye's....NOTHING.

    Now the ONLY people one can actually ask about DEATH are those people who fall through the ice in winter and they actually die as they have no brain wave function and this is actual DEATH.

    Because the cold water fills their lungs and drops their body core and brain temp. so low they can be brought back to life from zero brain function.

    These people are the one's to ask about death.

    AA
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Why are stories in the gospels of the same events not identical as to what transpired? There are 4 different versions of the miracle of the loaves and the fishes so why the discrepancies? Then there are miracles that are in some and not in others. Why is that? And perhaps the most telling of all is the claim to be the son of god. Jesus himself never said it outright in any of the texts because that would be blasphemy for a Jew and punishable by death. Why is something so essential to the core belief of Christianity not stated specifically?
     
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    Correct.....this is why just the Fab 4 of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's Gospels are used in the Bible as the other Apostles Gospels radically conflict with the Fab 4's.

    AA
     
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    If the standard is looking, walking and quacking like a duck then by no measure are you what you allege yourself to be.

    I have yet to meet an ordained priest this ignorant about what he has allegedly studied for the priesthood. Most of them were taught by Jesuit brothers and come up with amazing indepth responses to the contradictions in the bible.
     
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    I don't believe it either.

    I have talked to many Priests and they have always been kind and eager to listen to what my thoughts were.

    They might not agree with me but they never were upset that I knew where all the holes were in their ideology and religion.

    This guy....well....we is quick to judge...quick to anger....and slow to understand.

    AA
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Online clergy need not know ANYTHING. Well...how to type perhaps.
     
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    Afta mya Kin dissided toa get hitched....well dey didn'ta have the coin so ays a got on da cumputa and took me a course on bein a Preatcha!!

    Afta all dat's da leest aye coulda dun fer mya sista and my first cousin!

    LOL!!

    It cost me a whole $19.95.....but aye wasn't about to pay out the extra $7.00 for the frame dey wasa sellin fowa my deeploma!!!

    Dat der is a smart thinkin!

    AA
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know....if you get divorced in Kentucky....She's still your sister?

    Whoda thunk it.
     
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    LOL!!!!

    A guy yells.....Hey Sis!....at a family reunion in Kentucky.....and his wife say's....."What the hell you want LeRoy?"

    AA
     
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    Can you measure the consciousness that interacts with itself, or that interacts with matter? Can you measure the consciousness that interacts with the matter in the random number generators, that moves the generator in an intentional direction?
     
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    We can measure the neural electrical charges within the mind that result in muscle movement that effects matter.

    There is no evidence existing that Psyionic Energy effects matter.

    Thus your statement....and question....."Can you measure the consciousness that interacts with the matter in the random number generators?".....is one that is stating something is happening which you have no evidence to support.

    AA
     
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    This is an exceptionally powerful......
    and I believe accurate statement...........

    Somebody who terms themselves an Agnostic......
    probably has a better grasp of the probable implications of
    GUT, (Grand Unified Theory/ A theory of Everything).....
    String Theory.....
    and the Cyclic Model of the Universe.....
    and perhaps even Multiverse Theory... in some form......
     
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    The problem here is that science isn't going to prove you wrong.

    And, under the rules of science, you don't have any evidence. Furthermore, you don't have a valid hypothesis, let alone any theory. And, you don't have a method of discerning falsity.


    Under the rules of religion, you can claim anything you want. That's why there are so many religions! There is no discernment based on anything that can be detected by human beings.

    It's certainly possible to discuss philosophy, but once the supernatural is injected there is too much crazy to allow meaningful progress.
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm atheist to claimed gods and agnostic to whether a God exists. IMO, if there is an intelligent God, it is indifferent to us. The world as it is proves this.
     
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    Another possibility is that the most fundamental energy
    Intelligence is a firm believer in freedom of choice.......
    and allowing us to make errors..... even extremely serious ones......
    and perhaps ....."those who are forgiven much love much".....
    is pretty close to being an Absolute... when infinite time is factored into the
    equation.........


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a06

     
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    On the other hand.....
    a pretty powerful case can be presented that the originators of most
    of the major religions had either a near death experience or at least an
    out of the body experience.......

    Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus fasted for forty days and then in Matthew chapter 4 recounts
    a number of events that sure sound like an out of the body experience to me.........
     
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    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/4/1/s_933001

    Mat 4:2

    And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
    ....

    Mat 4:5


    Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,


    Mat 4:8


    Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

    These verses remind me of a book I read back in the 1990's about the astonishingly gifted Ingo Swann.....
     
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    It is of my opinion that it is not possible for mankind to reach their full potential without God, and without a better understanding of God. The more I get involved with God and understanding the word of God, the more powerful I become on not sinning, seeing satans tricks/traps, understanding satans ways with the world, and the people who are of power in the world. God makes it easier to see what is to come soon. An extremely higher state of conscience well beyond what we have now, cannot be achieved but through God.

    When kings of nations make their moves for war or whatever the case may be. It will be much easier for the people to see and understand why such moves were made, if there was an overwhelming spirit of good/righteousness on earth. With an overwhelming spirit of good on earth, it would be much harder for satan to manipulate kings/leaders into his will, and much easier for the people to see and call it out.

    People think there is no such thing as spirit. Yet when walking into a place full of evil, one would not have to see that evil before getting the feeling of something bad, and merely wanting to exit. That feeling is of Spirit, and either good or evil can indeed be felt.
     
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    As an atheist I have no problem with "not sinning" because I simply ask myself if what I am doing is going to harm others. If it does then it is wrong so I refrain. No deities needed for a basic code of ethical principles that I can live by and face myself in the mirror everyday.

    There is certainly evil in this world and one only has to look at the toned down orange hued satan in the oval office and his cabal of demons. They obviously want to harm We the People and other innocent men, women and children around the world.

    But what is motivating them is greed and power lust. We the People will need to sort them out eventually.
     
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    This is just a convienent excuse. Many of those who suffer in this world do not bring it upon themselves. There is nothing worse than Christians claiming they are blessed, while so many innocent suffer horrific lives.
     
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