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Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Yant0s, Aug 21, 2019.

  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Ironic PROJECTION is definitely "your thing".
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I take that as a yes. Facts are not your thing.
     
  3. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Assbackwards, just like everything else!
     
  4. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    Actually, MLK Jr's whole point was to stop making race an issue. So, I am not quite sure what you are trying to say here.
     
  5. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    Aaaah, the good ole argument of "It is OK when we do it!" :laughing:
     
  6. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So you, I and PP agree with some of Sanger's ''eugenic'' beliefs. Namely that women should have a right to plan their pregnancies in order to be responsible parents and PP assists low income people to do that. You are the one to bring race into it.
    Speaking of historical bias, you skipped over the last 60 years of the RNC for some reason.
     
  7. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Indeed he did but... Under Obama, children were separated from parents only when authorities had concerns for their well-being or could not confirm that the adult was in fact their legal guardian, but not as a blanket policy. https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/fact-check-trump-claim-obama-separated-families/index.html
    Trump changed the policy, all children were separated, so it is dishonest to say Obama did it too, without adding context.
     
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    During the Obama administration, family separations were rare and predicated upon two conditions: whether border officials felt the parents or guardians posed a threat to the children, or whether the adults, under U.S. immigration law, had to be detained based on prior criminal convictions. That was not what trump,p did....And you might also learned that Obama sent back many more immigrants without the cruelty
    How you can even compare the actions is why Trump loves people like you
     
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  9. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, Trump decided to follow the law as written by Congress.
     
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    No he didn’t! Please educate yourself for crying out loud .Congress Never said to separate children from their parents. Do you like zero tolerance. Where is your humanity? I hope you don’t consider yourself a Christian
     
  11. Derideo_Te

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    Too bad you can NOT cite any Congressional law requiring the ARBITRARY and MALICIOUS separation of children from the parents of Asylum seekers because that was an ILLEGAL POLICY that was INVENTED by your BLOTUS and Sessions that VIOLATES the RIGHTS of both the parents and children of Asylum seekers.
     
  12. Ritter

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    Haven't you realised laws are for normal people yet? Since when has the law ever applied to Government, Congress and politicians? This is the main problem with secular, democratic parliamentarism - It creates a group of people who make laws and another that has to follow the laws and when the latter does not comply, the previous has the right to punish them.
     
  13. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    ....''so it is dishonest to say Obama did it too''....
     
  14. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. What form of government would not be liable to those weaknesses?
     
  15. Ritter

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    No government.
     
  16. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So your cynical view is all government lawmakers are above the law but particularly those with a secular, democratic parliamentary form of government?
     
  17. Ritter

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    Any form of government puts the people with the legislative power above the law. Democracies are not much different from dictatorships in this regard.
     
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    Well, Obama put kids in cages so...
     
  19. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    In a democracy no one is above the law; hopefully your cynicism is unique. That is not to say the law can not be subverted by the rich and powerful. They can buy back underage sex tapes, hire a fixer to intimidate witnesses, change campaign finance laws......
     
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    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    I am definitely not "unique in my cynicism" since the ideas I express stretch as far back as the 1800's and are the very foundation of Classical, European Liberalism. Ideals that later served as the pillar for the cornerstones that later formed what is now known as the United States of America.

    The law permits the lawmaker to engage in activities that if engaged in by the citizen would send him to jail. It is the inherent problem with Statism.
     
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  21. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    You're being a bit non-specific. Surly you don't mean agreed upon government duties like taxation, eminent domain, deciding who can cross our borders, etc.?
    Classical liberalism is more akin to libertarianism than to what the US is.
     
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    Why not ??? They are equals after all. I just don't think racism should be allowed to carry on.

    Why do you want to enable it so badly?

    Seems like some are too attached to the victim identity and unwilling to give up the race card.....hmmmm interesting.
     
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  23. Imnotreallyhere

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    Not really. I simply note that most of PP's clients are brown. De facto if not de jure racism. Apparently, PP does not believe brown people should have children.
     
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    Aren't you the person who thought Huey Long was a hero of the people? Rather than a corrupt populist, like, I dunno, Donald Trump? Are you arguing here to prove you're the smartest person in the room or out of personal conviction?
     
  25. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    And someone argued successfully that they are an irrational ideologue and facts meaningless.
     

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