IDF Heros Grab Terrorist

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  1. notme

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    I checked the youngest suicide bomber was 16 years old. I also know that research on the people who did these bombs found that the thing in common was that they had had loved ones killed by the IDF and that was confirmed by a staunch and all supporting Israeli on a forum several years ago. She claimed she had worked on interrogating those who had failed attempts but she was in this just confirming research, I think done by the EU which discovered this.

    Posters attempts to suggest 3 year olds and other minors would do this because their parents would strap bombs to their bodies was correctly described by Russell Brand a few years ago - thought in this instance he was talking about the Israeli claim that Palestinians allow their children to be used as human shields - it is simply attempts to dehumanise the Palestinians to excuse their treatment of them. Generally a technique used to excuse genocide.
     
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    JERUSALEM—Saying they were pretty hard to miss during her two-week visit to Israel, teenager Sarah Caplan told reporters Monday that she hadn’t expected to see so many dead Palestinians on her Birthright trip. “My friend Kate who came over last year said she noticed a couple, but this is way more dead Palestinians than I ever imagined,” said Caplan, who explained that her tour group was prepared to see a few scattered bodies while driving around the country, but were completely caught off guard when they stumbled on entire groups of dead Palestinians near the Gaza border. “It was cool to see the Western Wall, and we all got to ride camels in the desert, but we still saw a couple bodies there, too. At first you think it’s just this one-time thing and you don’t worry about it, but pretty soon, you realize they are kind of everywhere. They didn’t really mention anything about this during the orientation.” Caplan was also surprised that there were so many people her age in the Israeli Defense Forces killing Palestinians.

    https://www.theonion.com/teen-on-bi...um=sharefromsite&utm_source=The_Onion_twitter
     
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    Also from your source,The Onion:
    https://politics.theonion.com/you-are-the-jewel-of-my-collection-says-saudi-prince-1823998718

    It's a satirical news site.
     
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    I was over optimistic about this and Netanyahu cruelly ditched the plan after he felt threatened of his position. Bennett and others want the world to be absolutely clear. Israel will not save one person threatened with genocide or anything else. So only one day after having made this plan which would have required Israel to keep a few thousand refugees it has been ditched.....
    and it seems I may have been wrong that he was responding to Israeli citizens as well. Looks like it was Rwanda who decided not to commit. There is talk now of deporting all of Israel's bona fide Refugees who they call 'Infiltrators' to Uganda. I think Israel is still offering them the opportunity of indefinite stay in prison as an alternative. Some of those who left before and are still alive have recommended they take that option.
     
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    Somehow I've missed this wonderful post of yours, sorry.

    An analogy comes to my mind - a free and proud mustang roaming around enjoying life, occasionally swishing his tail to get rid of irritable fly.
     
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    Oh I forgot to mention that even though it was Israelis who managed to get the deportation of Refugees halted word had it that the people complaining about this who most concerned Netanyahu was American Jews and seems they have responded.
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...tion&utm_medium=web_push&utm_campaign=General

    so on the one had Netanyahu is trying to protect himself from those inside Israel who want to replace him and on the other losing the respect of a large portion of American Jews might be a little hard to handle.
     
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    A proud Aryan philosophy. :thumbsup:

    That's the main reason why you are so easy to discard as a correspondent, Dutch; Most (if not all) of the arguments you serve about Palestinians could have been used by Nazi Germany about Jews in 1938.

    Think that out.
     
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    As a person who has traveled the Middle East on business, I can tell you the indoctrination of hate is started very young for Muslim children. While American children are watching Sesame Street, three and four year old Muslim children sing songs about killing Americans and Jews. It is little wonder that they grow up thinking the only answer is violence.
     
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    There's no need for songs - there are reasons enough for Palestians to hate Israelis, all of them quite understandable and concrete.
     
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    As "MVictorP" points out, such analogies have been used to evil effect before.
    I would point out - That when you use such analogies to dehumanize your Hated
    enemy you do so in attempt to Justify your own foul projections - You lower yourself

    People who give themselves over to an Ideology are NOT allowed to do that.

    Unfortunately they must so sear their consciousness that they are unable to even perceive of
    any FACTS that run contrary to, or shines a light upon, their immoral 'engraved in stone' beliefs.

    Any Ideology that seeks to Justify the continual, dispossession & dehumanization of an occupied
    & oppressed people, will clearly be perceived - by any Thinking person, as being decidedly immoral

    The Ideologue must remain "Willfully Ignorant" and blind to that simple, transparent fact


    "Our blight is Ideologies - they ARE the long expected Antichrist"
    C.G. Jung
     
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    A THINKING person - Who "breaks the silence"
    & who has NOT sold his soul to some aberrant Ideology
    & who is still able to recognize the diff between Moral & Immoral
    ....A person who does not have to depend on "Willful Ignorance"
    .................................................. to enable them to sleep at night



    Fmr. IDF Soldier Calls on Americans to Stand Up
    to Israel War Crimes | Interview with Eran Efrati


     
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    I am beginning to regret this post:

    I don't believe Dutch (or any zionist here for that matter) is the evil/fascist guy we make him to be: It's justy that when he comes here, he puts on the partizan jersey and tries to score one "for the team". He's a brawler, a team player, and he want to invest himself into what, I believe, nearly all of his environment (jewish and financially secure) approves.

    Taken personally, I am sure he can be empathic and reasoneable.
     
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    Not speaking of this post.
    Your depictions of the similarity of arguments between the two situation were however witty and insightful if edgy. I gave a like to two, one of which I was a bit unsure of at first but liked later.
     
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    Oh, but that doesn't change the fact that the two situations are indeed similar, objectively and on many angles. I will resort to it again as I have in the past.

    I just don't want to personally attack Dutch, or tie him with a despicable regime in any way. I appreciate his presence here.
     
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    Yes, I assumed that was what you were doing.
     
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    That's democracy to you, my friend - I bet this Eran Efrati gentleman is alive and well today?

    Now, imagine for a second a Gazan going on TV, blowing whistle on Hamas, and them returning to his him in Gaza City... do you think, Hamas will want to talk to him in the still of the night?

    That's right :juggle:
     
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    Go ahead, make my day. Am as cool as a cucumber, my friend.

    Oh... and thank you. I appreciate you too :hug:
     
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    And the results of MVictorP efforts being... what? :wall:
     
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    Yes my friend, I'm all of that indeed, and more. But you have to understand, all of us here have chosen sides. And my side I support wholeheartedly, and without reservations.

    Is all there's to it.
     
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    Vise versa my friend, vise versa...
     
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    Ok this thread is about a three year old being detained by the idf for being in control of a courgette peeler. So lets have a look at what they are up to in occupied Hebron. This happened on Wednesday

    I hope that is sobering.

    cont'd at link

    https://972mag.com/jewish-palestinian-activists-hold-freedom-seder-in-occupied-hebron/134412/
     
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    And just what does it mean Eadora, "dehumanize your Hated enemy?
    Would this be a good example of it? At 0:50, please

     
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