If Gays want to Marry.....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, wrong. You're not listening to me.........SIGH.

I personally want Man's Law above God's Law. I want to become closer to God. I want to triumph over GOD because I am MAN. But that doesn't mean I, or any man, get what he wants. Because I am MORTAL and MAN. I WANT the power and strength of God. But I do not GET IT. I do not get my way, like a petulant, spoiled child. I recognize LIMITATION. I recognize that I cannot become as close to God as I want to.......

You really don't understand anything, do you???

I recognize, I ADMIT, unlike you atheists, libs, and zionists......that God's Law IS above Man's....because God's Law is infinite and beyond the comprehension of mortal being. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND the differences. You probably haven't even looked or SOUGHT WISDOM, as I have. I SOUGHT GOD. I SEEK HIM STILL. The difference between you and I, is that I can see, and you are blind.

Because all we have are Man's Laws, without enlightenment. I do not expect RECOGNITION of God's Law, by people, let alone the ENFORCEMENT of God's Law.

So I'm not a Theocrat. HOWEVER, I am a Theosophist. Look it up.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL, are you serious??????? Did you just say that???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you need a serious REALITY CHECK. Leftist Libertarians are about as FACIST as you can get, without filling Hitler's shoes.....

 

Christ died.

But I am not a "godlet". I don't know what you mean by that. If you mean a FOLLOWER and SEEKER of GOD, then yes, that is what I am......

 

I see. So apparently you believe that Hitler opposed big government, government control over the economy, and government control over people's social lives?

And BTW, since you oppose putting god's law above man's can I assume you support legalizing gay marriage?

 

why should the gov tell them not to get married in their own church, by their own preacher that obviously wants to marry them

conservatives, always wanting to put big brother in our bedrooms


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I humbly disagree, Dave. The separation of Church and State was GOOD. And I encourage this division to continue.

HOWEVER, the CHRISTIAN churches must RELEARN the Word of God, as we knew Him in the old days of our european ancestors.

The CHRISTIAN Church must uphold the traditional marriage laws, and ENFORCE them, even if it means going against State laws.

For example, if a couple of young Christians marry in a True Christian Church, then the Priests, Pastors, and Bishops THEMSELVES must ensure that this marriage is secure. If either the husband or wife practice infidelity, then the BISHOPS and PRIESTS are responsible for this SIN. The Bishops in active AUTHORITY must blame themselves for the failure of the marriage. And the Bishop must seek to ensure that the Church maintains its RESPECT. If Bishops must do "whatever it takes" to keep the husband and wife loyal to each other.....then this is God's Will. The State must never cut the family apart.

We see this by the success of atheists, liberals, and zionists especially. They have divided MAN and WOMAN apart. They seek to replace man and woman with two HOMOS, two GAYS. And this is an insult against God, obviously. The zionists are really pushing their limits....and God can only take so much ungratefulness before He sends MESSENGERS to earth.

God's Law must become restored.

This means.......that BISHOPS and PRIESTS of TRUE Christian Churches.....are directly responsible for failed marriages. A Church must EXCLUDE and EXILE anybody who files for divorce. Bishops and priests must ENSURE, and take any measures necessary, to keep families together, despite the liberal trend today. If a bishop receives a young couple, wanting marraige, then he should have the FORESIGHT and knowledge, the wisdom, to know whether this couple will become SUCCESSFUL to maintain the marriage, or not.....and if the marriage is a failure, then this failure reflects the bishop or priest himself. And the bishop or priest must become shamed, and find great guilt, before God....because he is not doing his DUTY as a representative of the Christian faith.

Bishops and "priests" who marry gays, are Satan worshipers and false Christians, who make a mockery of our Faith.

They are like a cancer. How can any man seriously call himself "bishop" or "priest", or become recognized as such, when he cannot even differentiate SIN in sex???

A priest who does not understand the nature of SIN, sex for pleasure, versus sex for procreation, IS NO PRIEST AT ALL. He is a False Christian, and a blasphemer of God. He makes a mockery of God and insults Him directly.

This already happened 2000 years ago. The Catholic Church was the first "state religion" in Rome.

Now, Obama wants to make his own version of the catholic church, a new "state religion".

This new form of Catholicism, FALSE CHRISTIANITY, wants to call gay marriage as "civil unions".

It is MAN acting as GOD. It is the ultimate OBAMINATION against God......Man becomes pretender to the Throne of God. This is AGAINST every grain of "CHRISTIAN" fiber in the Christian's soul. His entire being, soul, spirituality, as a Christian.....is designed, genetically engineered by GOD, to fight such a thing!!!

Of course, this is typical of sexual deviants, straight or queer.

Sexual deviants don't stay married, because they don't understand marriage, or even sex. Nobody "taught" them the difference.

In fact, zionists are poisoning our children in elementary school, that "sex for pleasure", SIN, is normal.............CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?!?!?!?!?!?

And people tell me I am "TOO EMOTIONAL"!!:!?!?!?!?!?

I'm about to explode..........

Marriage must be defined by GOD and CHURCH.

The State has no place in terms of MAN and WOMAN.....except for matters of legality regarding property.

Separation of Church and State does not apply to MARRIAGE as it does between institutions of worship, Man's Laws, and God's Laws.

Marriage is something different. And the STATE must stay OUT of marriage.......but it will not. It has become too corrupt and powerful.


We are seeing the seed, the birth, of a Second Catholicism. The Rebirth of Christ is near at hand...........history repeats.

 

You're quoting me for (*)(*)(*)(*) that I did not say.

 

Okay you have a point about that, liberals are not "libertarians". But I still don't trust libertarians......

The state can mandate a "State Church" that legally marries and recognizes Gay sex as holy matrimony.

I'll just mock it and show everybody what kind of DISGRACE and SHAME it is. And I'll point out that zionists are the ones fueling this MOCKERY. It's UTTER, complete disgrace. It is the end of liberalism. This approaches the limits.

What is the limit?

It is attempting to CONVINCE children, in grade school or elementary school, that queers having gay sex and sodomizing each other, is "okay" and "morally good" and "acceptable"..........AND that this will have NO negative social and cultural repercussions 100 or 200 years from now.

How unbelievable is this??? Let's take a look at HISTORY, what does it say???? God smote the sodomites with hellfire. Must we repeat this lesson?

Yes........it appears as though humanity, stupid and animal like as it is, must learn the OLD LESSONS the hard way. As what must be done with ignorant children, and a degenerate, failing society.

 

What are we going to call a "church" who marries queers?

I have some ideas:

Church of Satan
State Mandated Church
Church of Obamination
Second Catholic Church
Second Wave Catholicism

You may add to this list as you please.

 

I apologize for that, sometimes I don't use the quote button properly.....please forgive me.

 

I'm a liberal and a libertarian. They are hardly mutually exclusive.

And why don't you trust libertarians? We are the least likely people to want to interfere with your life in any way.

Why does the State have to mandate a church? There are plenty of churches not to mention justices of the peace who have no problem marrying gays.

For instance, the Unitarian Church, Buddhists, Wiccans, and the Congregational Church all have no problem with gays getting married.

No State Church needed. And BTW, a State Church would be unconstitutional.

Consenting adults is the logical stopping point.

If God is going to murder people because of consenting acts that harm no one, then he is evil and deserves to be actively rebelled against and denounced.

 

The supporters of same-sex marriages are not campaigning to change the way your church, or anyone's church, can operate. Nothing at all, nothing, would change in that respect because the government does not have the authority or the power to tell a church what they can and cannot recognize as a marriage. The issue is entirely about how the Federal government and the state governments handle it and who they are willing to recognize as legally able to enter into a marriage contract.

 

Allowing gay marriage or not allowing gay marriage I'm OK with it either way. On one hand I think a society has a right to decide what goes or doesn't go in it. There should be a vote on the State level. Let the people decide.

On the other hand I don't think a government has a right to tell people how to live. If gays want to marry and the majority vote approves then it should be allowed.

Either way I'm OK with it. I don't think the government should be forcing the issue either way. Let the people decide.

 

The biggest pile of pelican poo I've read in these forums!!

If you want to do "God's work",,how about doing some good..

 

Ahhahaha! Okay, you're playing some sort of caricature role on here. No one in this century thinks like that. Abstinence until marriage is still a popular idea, but there isn't a person alive today who actually thinks that sex for pleasure within a marriage is somehow sinful. That's insane.

 

That crazy old coot Abraham spent his entire life banging his sister Sarah until she croaked. God thought that was great.

And don't forget Lot and his skanky daughters. He was willing to toss them out to get gang raped. When they left Sodom (because they were the righteous ones) his daughters got him drunk and banged him like they had overdosed on female Viagra. He might have been drunk but he was willing and able to get both of them pregnant.

And don't forget that fine upstanding sex pervert David. He went around killing and cutting off men's foreskins so that he could get laid by Saul's daughter Michal, whom he then cheated on.

Imagine Bible thumpers getting upset at homosexuals. That's too funny.

 

That is EXACTLY my point, too.

You forgot to say, "SINCE WWII, after the Feminist sexual revolution the straight people have some new relationship which is hardly MARRIAGE by the traditional standards and meaning of the the word, matrimony.


We need to make the legal term Marriage mean No Divorce, except Adultery.

Everything else that has recently been fraudulently using the good name of Marriage should find some other name, be it Civil Union, Contractual Coupling, Secular Co-habitation, etc.

If Marriage was a person, she would long ago have sued people for Liable.

 

That is EXACTLY my point, too.

You forgot to say, "SINCE WWII, after the Feminist sexual revolution the straight people have some new relationship which is hardly MARRIAGE by the traditional standards and meaning of the the word, matrimony.


We need to make the legal term Marriage mean No Divorce, except Adultery.

Everything else that has recently been fraudulently using the good name of Marriage should find some other name, be it Civil Union, Contractual Coupling, Secular Co-habitation, etc.

If Marriage was a person, she would long ago have sued people for Liable.

 

So then we can see that the complaint has absolutely nothing to do with men at all, but is totally concerned about the social problems that arise when women are licensed to trade sex without any restraints by the society.

The complaint, time and again in the Old Testament, was about what it specifically called a Whoredom which permitted the women to insist that their body is their own, and they alone have the right and the license to trade their sexual favors anyway they see it works to their benefit.

 

Jacob's thuggish sons get credit for the first honor killing. They refused to treat their sister as an equal.

 

Does the rantings of a madman qualify as part of a discussion???

I think not.

heretic....lunetic...just sayin'

 

You don't have to worry about that......those who truly represent God will not but those who are children of Satan will. Jesus said, by their fruit we would know them.

 

And if you were honest you would see that Jacob did not approve of what they did, and that in his later years when he was blessing his sons he pronounced a curse on the descendants of the main one that lead the others to do what they did.

 

You are about to explode, and it shows that the peace of God escapes you entirely. Paul talked about the Fruits of the Spirit, the evidence that someone is living a life infused with the Holy Spirit. All of your posts show that this does not describe you. Peace, love, joy, patience, goodness, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. Your posts violate all of these. You can tell us this is because you are a sinner, but sooner or later you have to take responsibility for your lack of peace, love, joy, patience, kindness, gentleness and self control. I left out goodness and faithfulness, as I'm sure you believe you display these, though I disagree, but the others are all indisputable in your posts. You have no interest in what the Holy Spirit brings to a true believer.
If you want the very best counterpoint to your attitude toward sex for pleasure, you have only to read Ecclesiastes and Song of Songs.
We are praying you one day discover the God of love.

 

Much better to keep women as chattel, as they were in OT times, is that it?

 

The OP was so over the top, and so full of just about every single talking point and quote that exists among the far right ultra conservative lot, that I consider it suspect. I call shenanigans! Is this dude from Landover Baptist Church? I have my suspicions..