If Machine Guns are illegal

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    History textbooks vary from district to district, state to state. You could both be right.
     
  2. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    As I said to him, history textbooks are different from district to district, or state to state, you could both be right about what's in the history textbooks.
     
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    Well, how about us leaving it up to a third party to judge the truth of my claim? I'll put up $10,000 that says I am a retired history teacher against your $500 that says I'm making it up. We can both add $500 for the third party with the winner getting his $500 back. I'm interested in protecting my identity, otherwise I could easily provide proof in the form of a pdf.

    I'll donate your $500 to a charity selected by the NEA (that should the galling enough to you).
     
  4. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I'm correct in the aggregate.

    http://www.state.nj.us/education/modelcurriculum/ss/

    Take a look at one liberal state to get an idea how he's full of it.
     
  5. Rucker61

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  6. LangleyMan

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    With more than 13,000 school districts, I'm sure you can find a half-baked textbook.

    Why isn't the generalization important when there's a general condemnation of history education?
     
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    No, your disciple.
    Of the Royal Order of the muddled mind.
     
  8. DoctorWho

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    Lol, I would not knowingly stoop down to pick up a folded scrap of foolscap off the floor with your secret identity written within.
     
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  9. Rucker61

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    Because I'm pedantic. My education is in mathematics, and a single exception disproves a universal claim. If you, or your erstwhile opponent, were to claim "most" or "a good proportion", then you'd be arguing from a position that would be very difficult to attack. I don recall either of you doing so. It reminded me of the fable of the seven blind men and the elephant.

    It's my understanding that the nationwide textbook market is driven by two states, California and Texas, and the school boards in those two states have very different views on what makes a proper history textbook.
     
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    Your reading comprehension is likewise lacking. I spoke about the evolution of textbooks; in the difference of the material presented in history and civics textbooks at the beginning of the 20th Century vs. today. Your own assertions regarding our form of government show your ideas about "history" don't match up with the real history of this country. In retrospect, I'll go ahead and apologize for impugning your integrity in the way that I did; but that doesn't change the fact that in your take on our history you're just plain wrong.
     
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  11. perdidochas

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    Not so much anymore. The textbook companies make textbook versions for the different states. I know longer teach, but when I taught in Alabama in the late 1990s, I had textbooks that were customized for use in the State of Alabama. I can't imagine that it's much different now.
     
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    I suspected my data was dated. Given the flexibility in publication technology, it makes sense.
     
  13. LangleyMan

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    You ideologues get soooo upset when you're challenged. So sad, too bad.
     
  14. DoctorWho

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    So you say and perhaps think.
    Truthfully, not so much.
    You do not have the slightest idea or notion about me.

    I do not fit any of your convenient cubby holes or preconceived castes.
     
  15. LangleyMan

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    You're a hopeless ideologue who doesn't understand how the history curriculum is developed or how teachers deliver it in the classroom. You're like the insulting jerks who generalize about LEOs based on nothing.
     
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    You're being anal about this stuff. Of course, we're generalizing. This isn't Lambert's proof π is irrational.
    Not so much these days. Besides, with the tremendous number of online sources, teachers regularly stray from the prescribed text.
     
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    What I see doesn't impress. You walk back to premises from too many conclusions.
     
  18. DoctorWho

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    Who cares ?

    I have a nice history of success in my ventures.
     
  19. LangleyMan

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    Fine. I don't take a dime from Social Security or Medicare and I don't need the money. I travel the world and live part if the year in Canada. Lucky me, lucky you.

    Now, how about showing some compassion for the senior getting by on Social Security and living in a single-wide?
     
  20. 6Gunner

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    Yeah, whatever. You go ahead and tell yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.
     
  21. LangleyMan

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    I have no problem sleeping.
     
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    No doubt.
     
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    Speaking of machine guns, here's a nearly mint Vietnam era M16A1, factory built. Current bid is $22,000 or you can pay the Buy Now price of $31,999.
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    https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/760478956

    Free shipping with Buy Now! Offering a fully transferrable Colt M16A1 in excellent condition, serial number 5,080,5xx. This is an investment grade firearm. This rifle was made between 1971 and 1973 based on the C MP markings on the barrel, so that makes this a Vietnam Production M16!

    This may be a Colt government contract overrun as the markings are consistent with 'Property of US Government' marked Vietman M16's, this one is only missing 'Property of US Government' but the space is there for the text.

    This is the nicest M16 A1 that I have seen. I would judge that it has been fired a few times as the internals and buffer show little to no wear. Another good place to look for wear is inside the mag well, and it's clear that there is little to no wear in that area too.

    This is a factory built machine gun, not a conversion. Many M16's on the market are converted semi-autos that were 'drilled out' before the 1986 ban. This was a machine gun from day one, and this is how it left the factory in 1971.

    The rifle is in excellent condition and has a mint bore. It's almost impossible to find a Colt A1 in this condition! I am a class 3 dealer and this is in dealer inventory, meaning that it's ready to ship tax free to a class 3 dealer in your state. I will E-file the paperwork, and the transfer time to your dealer is only 1 or 2 days presently. This comes with one 20 round mag and will ship insured for the final auction value.
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    Someone said these things are illegal?
     
  24. TOG 6

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    The anti-gun left displays it's ignorance every day, in spades.
     
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