If Mitch McConnell & John Cornyn win their Primaries?...Tea Party is through

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  1. Gorn Captain

    Gorn Captain Banned

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    But you are the rarety. MOST so-called "libertarians"....sell out. Vote Republican despite the candidate promising things to the Neo-cons/Hawks or the Religious Right. Or are simply lying about being "libertarian".

    If there were as many principled libertarians as are claimed?....the Libertarian Party would be winning actual elections....not just getting 10% of the vote in a Senate race or 5% of the vote in a Presidential election.
     
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    1. That's not all the TP stands for. Despite their denials and claims they are "only about less taxes and smaller government".....they routinely push the Social Conservative line and even support the Neo-con/Hawk line on Iran and the "War on Terror".

    2. It WAS a creation.....a "cover" for Dubya supporters who were embarassed about loyally supporting Bush, who wanted to pretend they were "something new" so they wouldn't look like hypocrites when they said NOTHING about deficits (or a trillion in debt on the Iraq War) under Bush....but moaned about spending under Obama.

    They also lie about being "non-partisan". They are simply re-branded Republicans.

    Take 100 Tea Partyers....get them to answwer honestly. What percentage voted for Bush...twice? What percentage have voted for a Democrat...even 20 years ago?

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    Show me a Tea Party candidate...who's pro-choice on abortion.
     
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    I do not think you are right , Ron Paul and his bunch were the TEAPARTY , it got hijacked , as a political junkie I agree with them on smaller government and less taxes just as I agree with OWS on a number of issues like Ron Paul told them “The people on Wall Street got the bailout and you guys got the bills and I think that’s where the problem is.”
     
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    Not necessarily true. While the internet is one of the most accessible tools in America, how many peeps(besides us) would use the internet politically to either search up candidates and/or watch a debate?

    Exactly...Precisely that 5%. The vast majority of America? Hadn't even heard of the Libertarian base. With the Tea Party being assaulted by Neo-Liberals in an alliance with Neo-Cons.(Which is wholly ironic. They and their supporters spoke of "not returning to the past.") But apparently, returning to the past is acceptable if it means avoiding an alternative 3rd party.

    So, even if Libertarians did get a coalition in government(which the Tea Party is or at least used to be a majority Libertarian faction), we know from recent historic precedence that Liberals oppose Libertarianism in its entirety.

    I wish to ask again: Pray tell, what's wrong with the Mack Plan? http://www.conniemack.com/issues/penny-plan/

    1 lousy percent. That's all America. It's not going to put millions unemployed, it's not gonna kick people out of homes. All I ask as an average American as a college student paying tuition, is ONE lousy percent of cuts.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    much less so than the Democrats tow the party line on issues like health care and gay marriage. Really, you can keep trying your tired old tactic, but it just highlights your own partisan nature. The tea party is a movement outside the establishment, and so it is continually less dogmatic than the party. F***, nearly half are Ron Paul supporters.

    As far as denials and claims, their own caucus website says they stand on


    lol, the tea party is a cover group for shamed Bush voters? Sounds like a Ron Paul conspiracy theory, which is funny, since roughly half of the Tea Party are essentially Ron Paul voters.
     
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    But there's no point in being one if you're not. There are other parties that would better suit someone's needs if they are not conservative.
     
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    Then republicans would never have the great Reagans, Romneys, and Giulianis as well as never have enough votes to hold office
     
  8. Gorn Captain

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    It's a dubious debate that "Tea Party was started by Ron Paulers." But for now, I'll grant that it is NOT made up of them now..."hijacked" or not.....it's just the Same Ol' Republican Voters who try to pretend they didn't loyally support Dubya.
     
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    An "unknown" Ronald Reagan, running in a GOP Presidential Primary on his record as Governor of California?

    Would get MAYBE 5% of the vote and be called a "RINO" by Today's Right and the Tea Party. That's a fact.
     
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    Which of the current parties is a sane, competitive party at present. What does that mean, exactly?
     
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    Actually, I hope Mitch & etc lose & the tea party runs some of their usual dingbats. That would be good for the Democratic Party.

    As for "Just look at their Tea Party - Occupy Wall Street. Rape, assault, vandalism," occupy Wall Street is bogus. When the repubs the rest of the whoop-whoop-group do a demonstration, it's free speech. A little less hypocrisy here is in order. As for "Rape, assault, vandalism," I don't know if that should be classified as the usual lies or the usual hallucinations. Probably both.
     
  12. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    Ummmm... since you have already posted several dozen posts claiming the Tea Party is already dead, does this mean they are going to be really, really, really, really dead?
     
  13. Gorn Captain

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    How to spot an INSANE Party? One that runs on repealing the 17th Amendment. :)

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    Have I said that? Or just that they were "impotent"? Big difference. Viagra doesn't sell to dead people. :)
     
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    Seriously? I see your smiley, but it appears you are serious. I ask again, seriously?

    Do you have any idea of what federalism is all about as conceived by the Founders or do you just wander around in La La Land?
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    The answer is lala land.

    I thought this same OP declared the tea party dead months ago? Does he keep resurrecting them so he can kill them off again?

    ROFLMAO
     
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    Considering, and I am presuming this; he picked up on my desire to repeal the 17th Amendment, he then assumed it applied to the PUB Party.

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  17. Gorn Captain

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    Quote me saying the TP is "dead".....again, I use the word "impotent".

    There may be some political "Viagra" yet for the Tea Partyers...if they can beat McConnell, Graham, and Cornyn.

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    Do you have any realistic belief that after nearly 100 years....the 17th Amendment will be repealed and the public will support turning over THEIR vote for THEIR U.S. Senator....back to a "bunch of politicians" in their state capitals????
     
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    I can see how "impotent" would feel more natural than "dead" -- however its still a little odd to be so afraid of something "impotent". Not really much harm can come from it, eh?

    ROFL
     
  19. Shooterman

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    No, as long as the sheeple are fed their usual pap, they surely won't repeal the amendment. However, with that said, it was done by the same Progressive, Liberal, 'Oh Look at Me, I'm Sandra Dee', idiots that have evolved into the current crop of nincompoops we send to Foggy Bottom.
     
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    Where in the WORLD do you get the idea that I am "afraid" of the Tea Party?

    Do you realize if NOT for the Tea Party....the GOP would hold the majority in the Senate today? But thanks to their choices of Richard Mourdock, Christine O'Donnell, Sharron Angle, Joe Miller, Ken Buck.....likely victories for Republicans were turned into Democratic victories?

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    And when do you predict THAT is going to change?

    Wait...let me guess...same answer Ron Paulers or John Birchers or any other extreme political ideologues have always given....

    "soon"?
    :)
     
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    You are good. Good, I tell you! You ask your straw man argument and answer it yourself, thereby always getting the answer you want to hear. You should go to work for Obama. Hell, you could take the place of his prompter.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Well, let's see... it's YOUR THREAD about the tea party being 'through' Obviously you're scared enough to start a thread about it, otherwise why bother?

    I hate to break this to you, but 'tea party' supporters have pretty much been absorbed into the Republican party. You're chasing unicorns.

    The #1 requirement for an acceptable GOP candidate in the Nov 16 election will be conservatism. Moderates will be considered, depending on their resume, but the Republican Party is swinging further right. Thanks in large part to the influence of the Tea Party.

    Pardon the interruption... get back to your important work here.

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    I'm not sure the Tea Party is going anywhere. And if they do, the same idea with a different title will take its place. It's becoming obvious that Liberalism and leftwing philosophies do not work, and it's becoming obvious that while Conservatism is a good thing, Republican politicians are about as undesirable to have in office as Democrat politicians.
     
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    Your demeanor.
     
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    It looks like the conservatives have decided to step on the tea partier's collective neck. The Chamber of Commerce promised to spend $50 million to defeat tea party candidates in the next election.
     

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