If parents "own" their children...

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    ... as Heretic claims, then what's to stop a pregnant woman from aborting the piece of property in her womb?

    Just curious.
     
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    Parents don't own their children, so this thread is fail.
     
  3. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    That isn't what Heretic claimed.
     
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm just passing the message along.
     
  5. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

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    Does your DNA count as your property?

    Then your children are your property.
     
  6. Questerr

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    My children are not my DNA. They have their own unique DNA.
     
  7. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's an interesting standard.. Of course, we all share DNA, in reality. We're all common descendants of very ancient ancestors. Does that mean we own each other? :D
     
  8. Swensson

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    No DNA is not by default your property. It usually starts out as your property, being a part of your body, created by you, if you will. However, under certain circumstances, you can give up, or be forced to give up DNA. Police have heaps of DNA which, while using the word "belong" is a efficient of saying who it's from, is not owned by its producer.
     
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    Contradiction
     
  10. Heretic

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    You may need a paternity test?
     
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    Wouldn't that mean I'd still be my parents property despite being in my 30s? After all, our DNA hasn't (fundamentally) changed.
     
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    A very logical conclusion.
    Who knew that Herectic was a big pro-choicer!
     
  13. Questerr

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    You clearly don't get my point.

    No parent's children mare made up of the parent's DNA. They are made up of elements of both parents' DNA, but the child's DNA is unique and owned by the child in question.
     
  14. Durandal

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    It's probably more apt to say that our DNA owns us. It's certainly responsible for who we are, and we have no control over it.
     
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    And, for that matter, we all end up inheriting our genes from an unbroken chain of genetic recombination that stretches back to the very first life on this planet..
     
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    Children are a combination of the DNA that originates from their parents.

    They do not share the same exact DNA as their parents.

    Its not that hard to understand.
     
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    By "by default", I don't mean that it starts out as your property, I mean that when you assess whether or not a piece of your DNA is your property or not, one cannot assume that it is and then go from there. Ownership is a concept in its own right and a person who produced an object isn't necessarily the person who owns it.
     
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    Humans, human body parts and human bodily fluids are not property in the eyes of the law.
     
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    Yes, it is............. both man's law (kidnapping) and God's Law (virginity and chastity) are based on the ownership of children. If owning children was impossible, then kidnapping could not be illegal, and a father would have no concern for his daughter's virginity. But kidnapping IS A LAW and chastity IS VALUABLE to a father.

    Lieberals hate ownership, because they want to steal children, and steal a young girl's virginity without getting permission from her father first. Lieberals tend to be rapists, because they have sex with chaste girls and women without asking the girl's father's permission first. This shows that lieberals have no respect for family, fatherhood, or morality in general.
     
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    Its ridiculous to claim that children, a separate human beings, are property. If children are property of the parents, should child abuse and pedophilia be tolerated, as long as its the parents who are the perpetrators? Is torturing or killing children OK, as long as its the parents doing it? Do children have no human rights? Because property has no rights on its own...

    And you dare to lecture us about morality..
     
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    all humans (without chromosomal disorders, like down syndrome) are 99.9% alike in their DNA structure.

    the only thing you own that possesses DNA is your body, and whatever slaves you happen to have.
     
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    Must be trolling - nobody is this ignorant.
     
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    These are all good questions, does the master have the legal right to harm or kill his own slave?

    You should open your Bible and read.


    Atheists and liberals are morally perverse, sick, and twisted creatures. Liberal atheists don't own themselves. You are not your own property, as a liberal atheist. You are a slave to what you call "the state". The state owns you. You are its property. As a TRUE CHRISTIAN, I profess self-ownership. You own yourself, as an adult man. That's what a man is, and always has been, free to choose, and free to own himself.

    Freedom cannot exist without slavery. Ownership cannot exist without being owned property. Children are the material property of their biological parents, as a dog is to his master, and as a house is to a TRUE CHRISTIAN husband and wife.
     
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    Who owns the Earth, humans or...............elephants? Which specie is more evolved? Which specie is superior?

    You all know the answer, so quit denying it. Humans OWN the Earth, as humans own their own bodies. Man is superior than all else, because he has been GRACED BY GOD, and TRUE CHRISTIANITY separates him from being an animal. You have a choice, be an animal, or be a human, a Man. Most people, like liberal atheists, choose to be animals instead of men. This is because GOD has granted all MEN FREE WILL. Men can choose to walk toward GOD or away from HIM. Liberal atheists choose to walk AWAY rather than TO HIM.

    Atheists choose to be animals, instead of men.
     
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    God danm your post are so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing crazy that they become entertaining.
     

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