That means you must support the right of the woman to abort her fetus if she wishes, given it is her property.
Women can't own property. How can they? Women are emotional, irrational, and ultimately irresponsible of their own behavior. Women should do as their father, or husband, desires of them. If a woman gets her husband's or father's permission to have an abortion, then it may be permissible in some rare cases.
I hope you are trolling.. You are even more sick and twisted than islamic fundamentalists. This is a great example of what religious brainwashing can do to a person. Keep up the good job, you serve as a warning to others. One more question.. Leviticus 19:19 - "Thou shalt not wear a garment that is woven of two sorts." I hope you dont wear any modern clothing!
This is by far one of the most misogynistic posts I have ever seen in this forum. Although I do find it hilarious that you condone abortion in the case that the father or husband permits it. So abortion is only ok in this instance? You'd be surprised how many men are ok with abortion. My fiance and I have already agreed if I should ever get pregnant now we'll terminate it. lol...
I said RARE cases. If a man permits his married wife to have an abortion, then he should still face the scrutiny of his peers and fellow men. Why did he choose his wife to have an abortion???? This shows that he is having SEX FOR PLEASURE, SIN, and not sex for procreation. If a man is only having sex for procreation, then abortion is completely out of the question. If a man is NOT SINNING, then there's literally no need for abortion at all. Sin is the cause of abortion, the cause of murder.
Because a man can rape a TRULY CHRISTIAN father's daughter, impregnate her, and she should get permission from her father to have an abortion in an extreme case. It is ultimately the DECISION and CHOICE of the father, to murder the innocent in this case, to prevent a far greater evil. Rapists beget rapists. And if a rapist goes against a TRULY CHRISTIAN family, then he should not find salvation by raping a TRULY CHRISTIAN daughter. Satan must not bury his seeds in the TRULY CHRISTIAN family. This is why, in some rare cases, abortion can become justified by GOD. A TRULY CHRISTIAN father should have a chance at forgiveness, even though he was inept and deficient in protecting the chastity and virginity of his daughter against scum. However, he should still suffer some legal consequences, up to murder. Since abortion is murder, the TRULY CHRISTIAN father should face the court, and some lesser sentencing, if all can be proved that the rape was truly unjustified, and the evil is what it is. For example, let's say a TRULY CHRISTIAN daughter keeps begging her father to go out with her friends on the town, dressed like a little hooker. She's 16. She watches her liberal girlfriends from school go out to frat parties, into clubs downtown, raves taking ecstacy and other drugs. She wants to go with them. She wants to practice SIN, and follow Satan, as the youth does today. And the TRULY CHRISTIAN father keeps saying NO, over and over again. And she becomes sad, and angry, and claims that she HATES her father, for being so unkind, strict, and disciplined. Then, one night, the TRULY CHRISTIAN father, feeling bad about denying her daughter the "joy" of being young, of being childish, says YES........... ...........BIG MISTAKE, guess why? Because the TRULY CHRISTIAN daughter, being innocent, and virgin, and chaste, doesn't know what to expect. She is raped in the bathroom stall of the club downtown, by a few men, after being slipped a roofie in her drink. She is taken to a hospital, she was beaten into a coma. She is pregnant. Where did the EVIL start? I will direct this question to the atheists and immoralists here. I want the morally deficient people to answer this question. Where was the mistake, the fault? Who should we blame? Should we blame the three rapists, for being what they are? Should we blame the TRULY CHRISTIAN daughter, for wanting to go out with her liberal and zionist classmates? OR...............................OR Should we blame the TRULY CHRISTIAN FATHER, who is, ultimately, responsible for everything. Shouldn't we blame Him?
I...I have no words... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oooooooooohhhhhhh my jeebus....augh my siiiiides! LOL! Wow...I have never laughed that hard at anything on this forum in my life. That was amazing Heretic. You are a riot! I think I know what you are here...haha, but I won't say it here so that all the Christians on this forum can continue to indulge in your comments and compliments of them. ROFL!!!!
Rape isn't very funny to me, but, by all means, laugh away......... I can assure you that rape victims, and families, do not laugh.
So women should have no control over their bodies at all? The man has control over her? So the man can tell her how to dress, what to eat, where to work, etc?
Women don't have control over themselves in the first place. What makes you think men don't already dictate how women dress? If a woman dresses like a slut, like a whore, then why do you think she does it? She does it because she wants male attention. She does it because men ALREADY dictate what she wants to wear, why, and when. Women dress like whores, because they think this impresses the man of her dreams. It usually doesn't, though. Women also "choose" abortions, out of fear. The fear of abandonment, specifically. Women fear that the man is going to abandon her, her child, and leave her defenseless. This destroys a young girl's idealistic dreams of having a "perfect wedding" and "perfect family". Young girls are ignorant. Young girls lose their innocence to criminals, perverts, sexual deviants, liberals. Liberal young men promote and goad sluts into having abortions, which doesn't help. It's all about rape, and continuing to rape women. It's about SIN, sex for pleasure only, never sex for procreation. What would you know about sex for procreation, Makedde? Probably nothing
if a man has total control of a woman, when would sex with her NOT be rape? given that she can't do anything she actually wants to do herself, i'd say that's a valid question. i guess it's okay as long as the rapist wants to have kids.
No, the ONLY TIME it's not rape, is when a TRULY CHRISTIAN young man goes and asks the TRULY CHRISTIAN FATHER of the girl he wants, for permission to date. Then, the couple may date. And if they take to each other, then the TRULY CHRISTIAN young man can propose to marry her. The TRULY CHRISTIAN FATHER must give consent. If the TRULY CHRISTIAN FATHER does not give consent for marriage before the wedding ceremony, and the young man and girl have sex, then this is rape. This is how all Europeans have defined rape since the time of CHRIST. Rape is only a crime when a young girl or woman is owned by a patriarch, her biological father. Liberal women are sluts. To "rape" a liberal woman, you need to ask her permission to have sex, and she could say "no". This is how liberals think of sex. In TRUE CHRISTIANITY, there is no asking a woman's permission. The woman does not own her own body. Because she is not responsible for herself, she's a woman. Women are ruled by emotion, not rationality, objectivity, or reason. Liberals falsely believe that women can "own" things, themselves, or property. This is all wrong. It's all not true. Women do not own themselves. Liberalism is just an excuse for women to act like whores and for liberals to pimp women like they are whores. Liberalism is about touting SEX FOR PLEASURE ONLY, and the more sex a liberal woman has, the better. This means that she's good, righteous, and noble, under the religious tenants of liberalism. The more of a slut and whore a woman acts, the better she is, in the view of liberals. This is why liberals and feminists want to walk around topless in their "slut walks". They are "proud" to be whores. They are man-haters. They hate fathers and patriarchy. They hate male ownership over women. They hate chastity and virtue. They hate everything TRUE CHRISTIANITY stands for. They hate values. They hate spirituality. They hate self-worth. They hate health. They hate family. They hate everything worth living for. They are ruled by decadence and SIN. These are harlots ruled by SATAN and ZIONISM. For a liberal woman, chastity and virginity are to be gotten rid of as soon as possible, to the scummiest man you can find. Liberals promote sexualizing children, and want to see young girls raped, lose their virginity, and have abortions in middle school. That is a great win for liberalism.
Makedde, if women are responsible for themselves, and abortion is murder, then women are responsible for murder. And women should be tried in court to the full extent of the law. You can't dodge this!!!!!!! Women either "own" themselves, or, they don't. So choose. Women are either mass murderers, or, blameless and will continue to blame men for everything. Which will it be? You can't have it both ways!!! Women are either responsible for murder, or they're not!
I'm just going to say, ahead of time, that women are NOT responsible for murder, because women are innocent creatures incapable of being responsible for themselves. That's why we don't throw women by the millions into solitary confinement for life, for the holocaust of dead babies going on RIGHT NOW!!!!!! Women are not to blame, even though they are the ones committing this evil. How can we blame men, when, men have nothing to do with the "choice" of abortion???? You can see the error now. Men are responsible for women. Women cannot actually make the choice to have an abortion, without blaming a man. I don't necessarily disagree with this position.............................
Well he can tell her not to kill her kid with her own body - just as a man has no right to use his own body to pull the trigger of a gun on his child.
I find it very telling that not a single proclaimed right-winger, conservative or pro-lifer has come into this thread to tell Heretic that he is wrong in his beliefs that men own women.
Why would they? Conservatives are PRO-FAMILY and I am too. Family is about marriage between MAN AND WIFE, not homosexual and homosexual. Part of understanding conservatism is understanding two parents OWN their children. The children are property of the biological mother and father. Liberals reject this. Liberals don't believe in kidnapping or rape. Liberals believe everybody is owned by the state, property of the state, and slaves of the state. Liberalism is statism and pro-slavery. Conservatives are anti-slavery, because even though children are OWNED PROPERTY of the parents, Conservatives understand that children grow up into FREE ADULTS, like everybody else. Conservatives believe in independence and individualism. Liberals don't. Liberals are socialists and communists. Liberals are traitors.
