If there are waiting periods on guns, why shouldn't there be a waiting period on abortion?

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member

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    If there are waiting periods on purchasing a gun, why shouldn't there also be a waiting period on getting an abortion?
     
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    Why should there be ? The two issues aren't comparable as are none of your other numerous statements trying to relate abortion to moon landings and earthquakes...

    Here' another question to ponder, why can't you address posts? It is either fright or lack of facts...
     
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    If a frog grows wings, will it still bump it's ass on the ground when it jumps?
     
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    It's not a ridiculous analogy. The reasoning for both would be the same.

    But some people don't want their abortion rights restricted in any way.
     
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    No, there is no "reasoning" in that at all.

    A 3 day wait for gun ownership is needed to do a background check....NOT for prospective gun owners to think about whether they really want a gun or not.

    They, like women wanting an abortion, KNOW what they want.

    It in NO way correlates with FORCING women to wait 3 days to get an abortion. NO one is forced to wait 3 days to decide if they want a legal medical procedure or not...


    Again YOU want to take away pregnant women's rights.


    BTW, it's more HONEST if you quote the poster you're addressing.

    It would be honest of you answered a very pertinent question: Why should there be a 3 day wait to get an abortion?


    Do please look up the definition of "honesty"
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The background check is done instantly and the 3-10 days is a "cooling off period" I can understand the logic for the first gun purchase, but it doesn't make sense for those who already own other firearms.

    As far as a waiting period for abortion, its their body; they can wait as long as they like!
     
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    Yes, they can wait as long as they like but a forced 3 day wait is asinine, unnecessary, and just another way to make women's lives harder, the goal of the Anti-Choicers.
     
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    Most major medical procedures are scheduled several weeks in advance.
    Abortion is the only major "surgery" where you can go in and out like a drive-through same day.
     
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    SO WHAT?
    As always, that has NOTHING to do with FORCING someone to wait for 3 days for a legal medical procedure.


    Did you see the "So what? " at the beginning? Do you realize how many times I've asked that and you never have had an answer....get a clue , when you have no answer the other person is right.
     
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    Either way, government has no business imposing your will onto free citizens.
     
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    Here's a simple common sense answer you won't get.

    Because one is applying to purchase a gun and the other is requesting a legal medical procedure..


    ...the difference is VAST but, as I said, you probably won't get it.
     
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    a procedure that could kill someone else...

    The idea behind waiting periods is to give some cool off time, just a little something to help make it less likely someone might make a rash decision.
     
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    For abortions, or guns, or both?
     
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    The waiting period on guns is meant, ostencibly, to prevent someone from making a rash decision that could endanger the lives of others and give them time to reconsider their actions.

    For those of us that view the unborn as 'living humans' and view abortion (commonly) as 'unnecessary' killing, I think a waiting period is a reasonable compromise in both situations.

    I say 'compromise' because I think it an unecessary 'nanny state' intrusion in both cases, but a very minor one.
     
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    Baloney, Anti-Choicers want a 3 day wait to make it harder for women to get a legal medical procedure that they don't approve of.

    Women have the same freedom everyone else has to make rash decisions.....

    ....and WHO the hell are YOU and the government to determine if it was a rash decision or not??



    As I said :
    Here's a simple common sense answer you won't get.

    Because one is applying to purchase a gun and the other is requesting a legal medical procedure..


    ...the difference is VAST but, as I said, you probably won't get it.
     
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    The logical counter, of course, being that "Gun Banners want a 3 day wait to make it harder for gun enthusiasts to make a legal purchase that they don't approve of."

    Not true in either case for the majority of citizens.
     
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    Here's what you and the OP don't get, there is no comparison.

    And I don't give a rat's ass what gun buyer's have to do , their rights aren't being taken away.

    There is no comparison....

    Let's slap a forced waiting period on EVERY medical procedure , no matter what it is....then it would be fair....AND that would be a sane comparison....
     
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    A 'sane' comparison would be a waiting period on all OPTIONAL -not immediately life or health threatening- medical procedures. Which there already is on everything but abortion. Granted, the waiting period is not enforced by government or law, but by hospital policy and bureaucracy. The fact that abortion clinics avoid this is part of why they are not commonly viewed in the same light as the rest of the medical realm. The aforementioned 'fast food' style of 'medical' practice in abortion raises eyebrows.

    Don't believe me? Go try to get plastic surgery, a sex change or have your gallbladder removed... today. You cant do it. It'll likely be at least a week or more. Even getting tonsiles removed or a tooth extraction most commonly requires an appointment following an exam and several days wait time.

    Can you explain how a 3 day waiting period on gun purchases 'arent taking away their rights' but the same applied to abortions are?
    Abortion is a right, right?
     
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    OH NO! NOT raised eyebrows! :eekeyes: Women have been threatened with "raised eyebrows" for centuries and the smart ones ignore it...

    NO, there is no forced 3 day wait on everything but abortion.

    And, no, women do not need to be forced to wait for their abortion. Women know what an abortion is and does. They don't need to be forced to make two appointments , pay twice, take time off work twice to do what they plan to do anyway.

    AND, IF a woman regrets her abortion she can ALWAYS get pregnant again....





    DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH, surgeries have to be scheduled....

    Scheduling surgeries is NOT being FORCED to wait 3 days by LAW....it's scheduling....

    Ya know, I expected the OP to not get the difference between an abortion and buying a gun but I didn't think anyone else would be that ...er..slow....


    You feel that if a gun buyer has to wait 3 days then anyone who ever wants surgery, to purchase anything even a new TV, or has a tooth pulled, or buy a car anything and everything should have a 3 day wait because you're pouting because prospective gun buyers have to wait 3 days ...

    that's pretty silly...
     
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    Both, but I could at least agree if it is a first time gun buyer. To make someone who has a safe full of guns at home wait 10 days is unreasonable.


    Minor intrusions add up. If you want to save lives, there are plenty of unwanted children who will never see the inside of a loving home. If they are still "living humans" in your eyes, you can make a difference.
     

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