If this picture doesn't scare the s**t out of you, you have no soul.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Jun 18, 2018.

  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Strike One!

    To figure out the context you'll probably need to find out what is going on somewhere different from Fox and the Drudge Report...
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    bullshit. laws are laws, they don't discriminate.

    to this deceitful 'disproportionate arrest' narrative, some things for you to ponder....where do cops go? where the crime is, right? if cops are called out to where the crimes are being committed, odds are they're going to be observing other crimes, right? In other words, if cops aren't constantly being called out to your hood, the chances of being inadvertently observed committing a crime are greatly reduced. with that in mind, should cops patrolling the hood be retrained to ignore or react to crimes based on your arbitrary determinations of "fairness"?....a quota system, perhaps? one darkie for every cracker?
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AGAIN, were no illegals with kids ever separated from their children during The Messiah's tenure?

    and why are leftists shedding all these fake tears for the kids of one class of criminals and not others? seems pretty gcddam bigoted to me....you know, carving out special considerations for the chirrens of captured illegals, while totally ignoring the plight of all the poor US citizen chirrens whose US citizen mommies and daddies are cuffed, stuffed and hauled away to jail/prison.

    it's either straight-up bigotry, or it's yet another one of the laughably duplicitous left's disgusting political gambits. which is also going to fail. spectacularly.

    you people are fooling no one.
     
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  5. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your disregard for young children at the border and blaming children for the actions of their parents.

    Is every child's life sacred or not?
     
  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know. But Republicans refuse to change their ways.
    I don't know what "they" you are referring to. I want our childish President to respect our laws. Specifically about not subjecting children to cruel and unusual punishment. Ever hear of that one?

    It's laughable how you talk about "intellectual honesty" and then accuse some unnamed "they" of lying without even indicating what "lie" you're talking about.
     
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  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know. If they were, was it wrong then and right now?

    LW and RW extremists say whatever BS furthers their agenda. They can't be taken seriously. That said, right remains right and wrong remains wrong regardless of partisan politics.

    What do you think we should do for the poor American children? Cut more welfare? Since you brought up the problem, please detail your solutions to American poor.

    "you people"? ROFLMAO
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it was wrong then, why are people like you only crying about it now? here, I'll tell you; because people like you shed all your "principles" when people who pander to giving you more free stuff are in charge.

    again, no one is fooled. sane America is on to the left's interminable lies and schemes
     
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    Who's disregarding them? They are being housed and fed while their parents are in jail. They aren't being required to survive a saline bath.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed. Same goes for the Democrats. That's the major problem in current American politics; two recalcitrant, increasingly biased parties at a deadlock with each other.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It wasn't being done then AFAIK. Do you? You asked the question, I answered. I asked you a question and you dodged. Why?

    "People like you" LOL. Sorry kid, I thought you were sincere and honest in seeking a discussion. Now I can see all you want to do is sling mud. Good luck with your anguish.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You, for one. According to whom? Why are visits by Congress and the media restricted to only certain sites on strictly guided tours? In the old days, the Soviets did a similar thing with Potemkin villages. Your trust and confidence in the Federal government is interesting. Were you always so trusting or is that a recent change?

    What do you mean by "survive a saline bath"?
     
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    Yes, holding facilities getting showers and being taken care of by people who are following orders.

    I hear Naziboy Miller is pleased with it all.
     
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    you're whining about sincere and honest discussions while implying no captured illegals were separated from their children during Obama's tenure "as far as you know"

    again, you (and your confederates) fool no one, kid.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    notice how that deplorable piece of shizizzle Obama isn't standing up to say "hey, wait a minute, this same stuff went on during my administration"
     
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    Just imagine how awesome it would be for parents to obey the law.

    They could avoid all this hardship.

    Amazing
     
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    Don't want your kids taken away temporarily, don't come without documentation, money and skills. Those kids would be given right back if they turned around and went home. Problem solved. And many of those kids aren't with their parents either. Nobody knows who the frack these people are because they have nothing proving it. Sorry.
     
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  18. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed, but 1) punishing kids for the actions of their parents is a flawed concept and 2) most of these people are fleeing violence in their own nations. Specifically Central Americans nations which the Department of State has issued travel warnings about to American travelers: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories.html

    I do not support unilateral action by the US against those nations and I do support securing our borders. It would be best if our nation engaged other nations on the American continent to fix the problems creating refugees.

    This is similar to the Syrian refugee problem; the solution is not to take in Syrian refugees but to fix the problem on the reason there are refugees.
     
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    Now you have jumped into the ridiculous stew that makes up left wing propaganda.
     
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    Incorrect, if they come through the property channels they are not being detained.
    The "families" being separated are crossing the border illegally, and then being arrested for their crime.
     
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    exactly.

    Jose: "Hey, Juan, I heard you were heading to America....can you take my kids with you? ...I need some money, and she's old enough to work the corner and he's old enough to sling dope now. I'll pay you, Esse!"

    total scam. professional commie scum have effectively (and purposefully) invited...lured... them to break America's laws with their amnesty, DACA, sanctuary city, and open-borders rhetoric, now they want to blame their plight on others. per usual, leftists never accept blame for their endless bullshit.
     
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    Obama encouraged Central Americans to come here illegally with his DACA violation of law. It was the surge after DACA that overwhelmed our ability to house the Democrat voters from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. Reno v Flores mandates that children be moved to the least restrictive place after no more than 20 days.

    In the meantime, the DACA abuse of discretion has delivered us back from the annihilation of Tuberculosis, Syphilis and promoted opioid addition that's killing tens of thousands of American. Trump is simply following the law. If the law produces undesirable results, fix the law.

    We can't even send home illegals from places that don't have a border with the US.

    The real problem is that the Democrats needed desperately to change the subject away from their use of the intel agencies to throw an election to the criminal of their choice.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The hardcore Trump supporters do not see a problem with this policy, but most Americans do have a problem with it. The optics are horrible and I'm sure the Republicans up for reelection will start getting nervous about it as November approaches:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-most-americans-oppose-immigrant-family-separation/
    Two-thirds of Americans oppose the Trump administration policy of separating immigrant children from their families when they cross the border illegally, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released Monday.

    A majority of Republican voters support separating these families (55 percent) -- this was the sole grouping of poll respondents to support the policy. Every other demographic included in the polling -- political party, gender, education, age or racial group-- opposes the policy.

    Americans also overwhelmingly (79 percent) agree that "Dreamers," the children of immigrants brought to the United States at a young age, should be allowed to remain in the country and ultimately be able to apply for citizenship.

    Historically, according to Quinnipiac, the support for Dreamers has remained high -- in the 77 to 81 percent range throughout the year.

    In this same vein, 67 percent of those polled believe illegal immigrants currently residing in the country should be allowed to stay and eventually apply for citizenship while 19 percent say they should be forced to leave.

    Republicans and white voters with no college degree are the only groups that support building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border as a means of curbing illegal immigration. Meanwhile, 58 percent of American voters disagree with the idea that a wall would stem the flow of illegal immigrants across the border.
     
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    Translation: All Hispanics are whores and criminals.

    Sorry, but I disagree.
     
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    1) They're not being punished, they're being held. They get held longer when the parents claim asylum, the process is involved and takes still longer when you show up with no papers. **** takes time. They tried family detention in the bush years and the kids kept getting abused by the other people in the facility.
    2) You seek asylum in the first place you're safe. They're safe in mexico, every single one of them. Proper place for asylum is in mexico, not here.
     

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