I'm a former conspiracy theorist and Trump supporter. AMA

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    It's shocking that you won't even countenance any sort of honest investigation into various commonplace irregularities that have been allege for more than fifty years.
     
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    How is your post related to the OP?
    Why the derail?
     
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  3. dairyair

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    It's shocking you and others who make your type of claim, never offer any real evidence.

    Actually, it's not shocking. What is shocking is you believe in conspiracy theories.
     
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  4. garyd

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    Dude these allegation are very nearly timeless. They couldn't find any evidence because they weren't allowed to look.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not a derail. The subject is rejecting conspiracy theories. Im hoping OP can tell me why gun control isn't an agenda to derail the second amendment, since he's stopped believing in conspiracy theories.
     
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  6. dairyair

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    Dude, your joking, right?
    There are actual cases that were investigated. And it shows the rates of fraud cases that were true as well.

    By a RW group.

    Heritage Foundation President Kay C. James leads an organization whose mission is to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.
    https://www.heritage.org/about-heritage/mission
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sadly, none of the factual info you provided will persuade Trump supporters to change their erroneous beliefs.
     
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    Even more shocking is that you won't do it yourself. What is stopping the GOP from doing it? You do remember the loser trump DID investigate it and even with the biggest clown car filled with the biggest liars he could find, they came up empty handed.
    So, why doesn't the GOP do it again? Or, why doesn't the Q nutters investigate it?
     
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    Gun control isn't a conspiracy theory. And there is no conspiracy to derail it either.
     
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    And if there is nothing there why won't the people doing big city machine politics let any one look?
    If there is nothing to hide why hide it?
     
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    As I already pointed out the commission was for all practical stonewalled by the several states.
     
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  12. dairyair

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    I never intend to change anyone's mind. That is impossible.
    I just like to provide evidence so those who aren't into conspiracy theories can make sound judgements.
     
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    They’ve had ample opportunity to show us all this evidence of widespread voter fraud yet never do. Go figure. It’s awfully hard to show evidence that doesn’t exist.
     
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    Well like I always say, few trips down the rabbit hole makes easier to travel it again and again and again..
     
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    Sorry but there is no good excuse for the BLM riots just like there is no good excuse for the Capitol riot. All involved in ANY of the riots are SCUMBAGS.
     
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    They do look. And each state has both parties. So each party is looking. Which makes the conspiracy theory you promote delve further into the dark world of lies and conspiracy theories.

    And you can bet your every last $$$$ that far right media looks very very very hard. Where's faux tv evidence. OAN? Brietbart? Newsmaxx? They should be flooding the world with all this election fraud evidence. Factual evidence.
     
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    Stop being factual and logical. It only confuses him.
     
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    Violence is never ever the answer. That's a last resort effort for failing to prove one's point.
     
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    Nonsense. In Philly they wouldn't even let Republican observers get close enough to see the ballots let alone the printing on them.
     
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    Which puts them and the claim squarely into the conspiracy theory category.

    And the OP, through logic and common sense, realized how deep these conspiracy theories go.
     
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    and yet Trump had a net 4K gain vs 2016

    Too bad that he lost 128K in the rest of the state
     
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    You're claiming Rs were not allowed to count. Do tell.

    It is obvious, you have no interest in dealing in facts.

    I gave you a link to heritage foundation right wing source, of all the election fraud cases they have unearth or others have unearthed and they've compiled.

    You are certainly free to stay believe false claims and conspiracy theories. As for I, I go where the evidence leads. I try to stay grounded in reality.
     
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    and as many of us were saying in Nov/Dec - they would change the argument to keep the conspiracy lies going. Remember in Nov, we kept hearing about the indisputable evidence that was soon to be coming and than every court case they were convinced would be in their favor

    So the theories/nar got adjusted. Dems have to prove that their 81m votes were legit; no one wanted to investigate the clear fraud; courts did not want too see evidence, yada yada yada

    GA did multiple audits/recounts which debunked so many of the nonsense theories in that state. Yet they remained convinced that that state was stolen too Thus no amount of audits/investigations would make them realize that they are being conned
     
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    Your claim is disingenuous. They didn’t let ANY observers close at first. Then all observers were allowed to be 6ft from counters.
     
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    where did I say BLM riots were fine???

    I said of the riots

    BLM riots were impulsive and the trump riots were deliberate

    when a rally becomes a riot ,crimes are committed,

    deliberate or impulsive..the reason does not matter until the criminals are in court

    and the people that broke the laws should be treated as criminals

    personally I am more concerned about the deliberate riots than impulsive riots

    the deliberate riots are more dangerous and deadly than impulsive riots

    who has more firepower?? BLM or Q anon??
     
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