Impeachment is now inevitable, what about conviction and removal?

I'm sure you do and I'm sure you have made a fair amount of money doing that.

There's a sucker born every minute

 

Lol.
Wait! You’re actually serious?
More lol.
RBG must be in bad shape.

 

duplicate

 

We don't know what Republicans in the Senate are going to do. I doubt that 14 Republican Senators will suddenly grow a "Patriotic" bone and confront him while he's President. But they are sure to abandon the ship once he's done. Most Republicans in the Senate hate his guts.

We know Ted Cruz will support the guy who insulted his dad and his wife, if that helps him get elected. But watch him jump in the boat of Trump-haters once everybody else has taken the heat.

I give Trump a 30% threshold. I think that Republicans in power will start abandoning him as soon as he goes under the 30% approval rate on a handful of polls. My respect for those Republicans who abandon him before that threshold. Any who do it after that deserve no credit.

 

You couldn't be more wrong. The Dems have swung to their traditional roots and that took the elections of 2018. They won't ignore the white working class nor will they focus entirely minority voter interest. Liberal policies are aimed squarely at the middle class voter, not the elite. Yes, they learned their lesson.

 

You completely fail to understand the attitude of republicans in the red states. They have watched the democrats look for reasons to impeach for nearly three years. The best indication of that is "We have got him now" which I have heard repeatedly.. As horrible as you might think Trump is, the attitude of "We are going to get him" makes republicans hate democrats more irregardless what you think Trump has done.

I say get on the with impeachment. It is doomed to failure, but even if it passes the senate, we will end up with a President Pence and a new VP with increased republican enthusiasm.

 

Impeachment? Maybe. Removal? For what? Ain't gonna happen.

 

And find them in truckloads

I understand the attitude of extreme Republicans in any state. It doesn't matter what they find.... they'll deny it.

I mean... this might be the most obvious violation... but others have not been that far behind. And they're still denying.... I'm not worried about them. I'm looking more into actual old-school Republicans. Those who used to be the real conservatives. Most often wrong, but honest and patriotic. Now almost extinct, but they could make a come back one day. For how long can they hold their nose?

Oh... we're on the same page on that one!

Glad to know you're not one of those Republicans who don't know what the word "coup" means.... I mean, they're all over this forum.

 

The democrats have over sold and the republicans don't believe anything they say.

 

Nope- I did it for the good of my fellow man. Taught secondary education teachers, psychologists, a variety of private people. Never made a dime other than some corporate training contracts.
It's simple. If I help someone else improve their life and become a stronger better person- then I have also improved the world I live in, that therefore my own life.
Try it sometime. Think of things in the big picture- think of paying it forward once in awhile.

 

It would be good if the dems actually did look to their roots, instead of trashing them. They didn't get the house by doing that, but through the dossier frame job. Since that has now backfired and the latest frame job (Ukraine) is doing the same, you will see them loose the house- and of course, the presidency again. They got nothing. As the new popular phrase goes- There is no "there" there.

Jut a few nights ago, I saw a democrat congressman in an interview that actually had sound values and I could respect as an honorable man- and that was refreshing to see. Too bad he doesn't seem to have any peers. His name was Jeff Van Drew. Good man.

 

Oh...

 

There's no solemnity or gravitas in this like when they went after Nixon. There's not a microgram of shock in it. The cry of impeachment has been heard on MSM, heard from Hollywood, heard under Pink ***** hats, heard in the House many millions if not billions of times until old hat has become no hat.

It's just another spiel the dems hope will finally, somehow, some way, by some utopian miracle, gain traction.

It's like carnival in capital-W-town, especially in the House.

 

Face it. Trump is going to be impeached

 

Pence couldn’t beat a drum in 2020. Nobody wants a Pat Robertson clone for President.

 

Except in the red states who elect presidents.

 

Trump will be impeached. As for conviction, the lessons of Watergate aren't lost on more senior members of the Democratic Party. They are keenly aware that public opinion will decide the next act in the Senate. The impeachment trial will build over the next weeks until, through testimony under oath, the story will grow, and the plot will sicken.

Republicans are also keenly aware of the role of public opinions in such matters. It took Watergate players months to build to a public outcry when the tapes became public. The Ukraine impeachment is already well on the way to reversing public option on the relevance of these happenings.

In short, watch the Senate Republicans and see if deflections occur. Once that happens, the bubble will pop and Trump will resign.

 

You kids didn't have the Senate votes to prevent Kavanaugh and Gorsuch. How are you going to remove President Trump lol.

 

GOP Senators are already getting shaky

 

You illustrate the problem trainers encounter- "Oh..."

You can give people solutions and answers, things that could change their lives overnight- but many of them, when they find out that THEY have to change thinking- loose interest. When they have to WORK at it- they lose interest. Free? Fine. Easy? Fine. Fits neatly into what I already believe, so I don't have to consider myself as having been wrong? Fine.

That is why most people aren't wealthy, aren't successful on more than a get-by level. It's not that answers aren't there- but that most people don't like the ones that work, and keep looking for the easy button, the get-rich-quick button, the free button. The limits on an individual's success and happiness are self-imposed. Society doesn't do it to them- They do it to themselves.

 

Many people delude themselves in to thinking those in the middle/lower economic classes are lazy. It's a convenient construct by which the poor can be blamed for their circumstance. What better rationale to use for a lack of charity than the misguided belief, "they brought it on themselves.........I'm better than they are?"

NEW RESEARCH DEBUNKS THE UPWARD MOBILITY MYTH
https://psmag.com/economics/new-research-debunks-the-upward-mobility-myth

"American workers face dramatically different opportunities, depending on their parents' occupations," Hout reports in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences."

 

Myopic vision invariably affects perspective. fella. What you don't see and don't understand and don't know DOES matter.
"Upward mobility" as seen by most is the "rising tide lifts all ships" theory. In other words, you can ride on the coat-tails of others who are actually performing better.

That's a kind of welfare- unearned benefit.

The real path is performance. SMART performance, not just how many widgets you punch per day. You have to get the brain involved, motivation involved, vision involved, judgment involved, courage involved

Most people do better when they do the basic job better- but that still has the limits of the basic job. Limits to the "upward mobility".

Your knowledge of what really allows some people to excel seems limited by your own perception. I'd suggest you do what I have done all my life, which is to ask the most successful to share their secrets with me- and found most happy to do it. Of course, I asked respectfully, and if you can't do that, they aren't going to give you the time of day. Thus, it would probably be a waste of time for you. Most successful people want others to be successful too; it's better for all of society. That's not the same as doing it for them- which is worse for all of society. I'll gladly share the things that have made my life successful with anybody who is willing and capable of benefiting from them. Pay it forward- great idea. But intelligent people don't waste time trying to drag people to success they are not capable of. And those who won't tell you that it's you and not society that limits your life- are using you. Seems lots of people want to hear the lies they want to hear- thus, they limit themselves.

It's not what you think, but HOW you think that keeps you down. You can't change that for someone else; they must do it for themselves.

 

I encounter many people who can't seem to stop patting themselves on the back for being born in to the lucky sperm club. You sound like a charter member.

 

People like our "trainer" above know how to make money.

They tell you that if you pay them...they'll show you how to get rich.

Trump did that with his (now shuttered) real estate college...

The only people that get rich there are the "trainers"

There's a sucker born every minute

 

Nobody has said it better than Trump did on October 24, 2016 in Tampa:

This will go on to the end. Schiff managed to get his lies on National TV, swaying some public opinion and demonstrating the corruption that is at the core of Liberalism today.

Obama brought us to this point. I certainly hope Trump can beat down his leave behinds, to include the media. This says it all: