In Signing Sweeping Tax Bill, Trump Questions Whether He Is Getting Enough Credit

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Oh come in, call us commie pinkos...that gets even more emotional mileage. Your solution is to put in people who are totally unqualified like the secretary of education and scream socialism!
    But I repeat the question why do you not want colleges to be free? You act as though it is a bad thing. The city universities in the state universities were excellent institutions of learning and produced some of the best people.
     
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    The point is that just because one doesn't advocate state (i.e. government) provision of education doesn't mean that he is anti-education.

    As the failed soviet experiment proves, civil provision of goods and services is superior to state provision.
     
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    Lear 45XRs should be free, oh and pizza,.. and beer,... and weed.

    When I go to collage for free, I shouldn't have to study. That would be a total ripoff.
     
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    "Why do you hate the children?"
     
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    He posted a quote from a guy who lived 150 years ago. He's not calling you anything.
     
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    Let me educate you about when kids could get the best college education ...free! New York City had many of the best colleges with the best professors. And you had to study and if you didn’t do well you got kicked out. What you are not aware of is they only accepted the top students ...many of the most intelligent kids can’t go to college ...do you think we should,only have private schools? Maybe we can cut out huh school, after all we know no one studies, right? I wonder why you have such disrespect for education. Your stereotype seems to be a projection of your behavior ..or perhaps your fantasy
     
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    Yeah that makes sense. I want kids to be able to get a good college education if they are qualified so therefore you conclude I must hate children ..I really must hate little kids because I fight for public pre-K
     
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    College failed you.
     
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    You're making the mistake you made earlier. Opposition to government-provided education doesn't mean one is opposed to education.
     
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    Every time I hear someone say [X] should be free, I know the remainder of the ignorant screed has yet to follow.
     
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    It's like seeing the tip of an iceberg and knowing there's an entire mountain of incoherent nonsense holding it up from underneath.
     
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  12. Renee

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    OK you are opposed to government provided education. Then please explain how private education would help the masses
     
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    Wow, quite a mature response. Next you’ll be calling me A dopey head
     
  14. Maximatic

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    No such explanation is needed. Forcibly taking money from people is wrong even if you spend it on something good. When someone tells you to stop doing something wrong, or to stop advocating that which is wrong, the duty is yours to stop the wrongdoing, not theirs to explain how you could get what you want honestly.
     
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    I don't care if you smoke pot. It's your body and you can do with it as you please. It has no bearing upon my original statement, which you fail to comprehend. Did you notice the quotations in my response? I was pointing out the fallacy in your argument, not literally stating that you hated children.
     
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    A large portion of the leftist base pays no income tax at all so there is no benefit to them. However they scream about lowering corporate taxes, the dummies, and they are the ones ending up paying their share of that tax. Corporations don't pay taxes....people do.
     
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    Speaking as an American individual, neither rich nor poor, isn't estate tax (or death tax) double taxation? Those that never save are all for it. Those that save and build equity to help "family" are punished. "Class warfare" sounds like to me. Karl Marx liked the sound of that.
     
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    You’re right...let’s not force people to,pay taxes. If they need a cop, let them hire them. If their house is on fire let them hire private fireman. My children are finished with school so I don’t want to pay any school taxes. I think where we differ as you seem to be caring only about yourself and I see myself as part of a bigger picture, the country.
    That’s why I elect people who represent my values. We just have different values obviously
     
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    I hope you were joking about a dopey head being a pot smoker.
    I did notice your quotations and I thought it was quite silly what you were saying. I guess I don’t care about children because I fight for them to get a great education.
     
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    No....My daughter will inherit a lot of money hopefully from us. She never worked a day for that money. Why is it being doubly taxed? When I go to the gas station and get gas am I not being taxed again? After all when I got paid I was taxed on that money.
    But now they raised it to over $5 million so I really can’t worry that these poor babies will starve on a mere $5 million. When the ceiling was lower, We took out a life insurance policy that would have paid the taxes for her. It’s so interesting that you are saying you are not rich no poor but yet you were fighting for the rich.
     
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    The “leftist base” pays no I come tax? What the hell are you talking about? But I love the right, they fight for the rich to keep more money and are not smart enough to realize that they’re getting screwed.
     
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    Yes, we have different values. I think forcible taking of what belongs to another is wrong, however it's couched, and you don't.
     
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    it's a gift tax really, but because it's the gift of a dead person we treat it different, we allow the first 10 million to be tax free
    if he was alive, it would be taxed as a gift

    90% of Americans will never pay the inheritance tax as they fall under the 10 million
     
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    I think you have me confused with someone else- I never said that.

    Yes, college did fail you. It is supposed to teach you critical thinking skills.

    That is known as a logical fallacy, specifically an appeal to emotion.
     
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    She also continues to conflate the thing itself with its provision by taxation(even though it's been pointed out numerous times that they are not the same), as if it could not be provided any other way, which is strange in a world where we're surrounded by goods and services we acquire honestly.
     
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