Inching toward exit, Trump says he'll leave if Biden wins Electoral College vote

No, he doesn't.

 

Biden got the most votes in history and we gained in the senate lol

 

You should have easily flipped the senate with how many seats we had open and you lost in the house.

The midterms have historically never been kind to the party in power but if you want to tell yourself you did well then go for it.

As long as you believe you are on the right track you won't be fixing anything.

 

The biggest problem is on track to be at noon on January 20th.

 

What problem is that?

You guys can have the presidency and in 2 years we should have all of congress and the court which means Biden's presidency is essentially over at that point.

 

I have. Now, when anything in the US or any nation we are involved with, goes wrong, it's Biden's fault! And nothing he does "well" I will give him credit for. The left did the same with Trump. Any achievement he made, peace deals between nations...etc...left called it fake news.

So, I'll just do the same thing with China Joe

 

You know who’s presidency is already over? Lol

 

So it’ll be just like the obama years? Lol

 

I don't care, he did his job with the Court.

 

No, Trump’s brief and malignant reign is a cautionary tale. It can happen here.

Folks like you will destroy democracy by carelessly voting it away.

And as you yourself have already proven, you’ll be cheering for it as you casually give it away. For the last five years, you have worshipped a flag waving, gun toting, give-the-world-the-finger jingoistic fool with nothing to offer other than bluster, attacks, name calling and gimmicks.

And that’s what really counts in Trumpworld. The show. The cheesy gimmicks, And the chaos.

Because small minds mistake chaos for progress and action. Chaos has always been Trump’s friend. The slight of hand that Trump always pulls out when he’s trying to hide something.

There was nothing overblown over the national and the global revulsion over the incompetence, arrogance, and corruption of this administration.

 

'It' being absolutely nothing. We did not have a totalitarian regime, we didn't have persecution of minority rights(the only people who might've been inconvenienced, were people who legally were on sketchy waters to be here in the first place. The excuse being "they overstayed their visas". I don't care whether they overstayed their visas, or came abroad illegally or both, laws exist to be followed right?

'Five' years? Trump's presidency was four years and I did not 'cheer' him on during the nomination process. But there've been people in his administration who very recently clamored on the success of using financial incentives to get our "European allies" to start treating it more like an alliance, and less like a piggy bank.

Don't worry, we'll return to that. It's after all "America's obligation to the international community", meanwhile you'll still be asking why our roads are crappy and why our social services are failing. The billions of dollars to our "allies" couldn't possibly be spent here at home.

In 2014, US Citizens(rightly) opposed the Ukraine fiasco, but in 2019 "OMG, it's so bad that aid was frozen based on a theory that we can't prove." Please, if not for that utter **** show, Americans should be pleased that what we opposed five years ago was phased out.

Last I recall, US Congresspersons were elected for OUR interests. So yes, I will always be jingoistic, post-Trump, pre-Trump and at every point of my life.

 

snicker snicker.

At least you are being adult about it like tRUMP.

 

I see. And you presented all the evidence you got.

So it is FAKE NEWS!!!!

 

Dirty Donald has no choice but to leave once the electoral votes against him are counted.

 

Non-sequitor.

 

Only when run by a bunch of partisan Democrats and that ham sandwich looks like Trump.

 

Why would you say that?

 

Gee whiz Wally

 

No, we did not have a totalitarian regime.

But not for lack of trying. Even now, Trump stopped just short of publicly declaring that the Supreme Court that he worked so hard to stack should intervene and declare him king.

And you’re making excuses for that baseless and anti democratic demand.

But you cheered for every one of your fuhrer’s totalitarian and pseudo facist rantings. You cheered when he declared (repeatedly) that he deserves a “do over”.

Your first paragraph was incoherent.

I’m quite sure that George Floyd and Brionna Taylor would nod in agreement to you assertions that they “might’ve been inconvenienced” and that their rights weren’t violated.

When the Proud Boys were marching in Charlottesville with the Nazi torchlight parades and chants of “Jews will not replace us”, you defended them, pretended that the Proud Boys weren’t a white supremacist group, and bent over backwards to pretend that the ugly spectacle had to do with some vaguely defined “white nationalism” which was somehow bigger than the open bigotry that it obviously was.

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And you have been one of the predictable ones who rose to Trump’s bait when he indulged in his frequent race baiting.

When Bill Barr undermined the rule of law, and McConnell surrendered part of his own power and responsibility to prop up this wannabe king, you and your ilk cheered.

I don’t know whether you did, but plenty of your fellow travelers cheered when TRump ordered Federal troops to attack American civilians in front of the White House.

You lived all his pseudo facist military parade fantasies.

You defended white supremacists, and cheered whenever Trump race baited (you did a lot of cheering and excuse making).

Yes, you did cheer for him consistantly through his nominating process and who cheered loudly for his gun waving, flab waving, adolescent pseudo facism, as well as his jingoistic backwards isolationism.

“But there've been people in his administration who very recently clamored on the success of using financial incentives to get our "European allies" to start treating it more like an alliance, and less like a piggy bank.”

Just because Trump bellows it, you believe it.

Of, and this “America as a piggy bank” trope is an old isolationist theme. Isolationists told each other that a century ago.
In reality, contrary to the myth you believe, the US is not noted for its generosity with foreign aid. It usually amounts to less than 1% of over all spending.

We all know that folks like you can reliably be counted on the loudly oppose any sort of international aid or commitment. Just as you have remained studiously silent when your heroes want to run up giant deficits to give Wall Street bonuses.


“meanwhile you'll still be asking why our roads are crappy and why our social services are failing. The billions of dollars to our "allies" couldn't possibly be spent here at home.”

Roads are crumbling because folks like you consistantly vote against spending the money to maintain it. I suspect that had not even been born the last time the Federal gas tax was raised. I doubt that you even know that tax pays for the lion’s share of public improvements.

No, Trump did not deliver us into a totalitarian regime.

But he would have made an excellent front man for someone who would have. And with Mitch McConnell ready at an instant to suborn the Senate any time they wanted to stand up to Trump’s anti democratic tendencies, and Bill Barr ready to suborn the FBI, the Justice Department and the courts to his fuhrer’s wishes, the capability existed.


Trump has made it very clear that he expected the justices that he appointed to the Supreme Court to figure out a way to install him in the White House regardless of the real vote outcome.

A smart jingoistic right wing wannabe fuhrer could pull it off.

And folks like you will be right there cheering for it.

 

Let's just cut the crying down to a simple sentence 'He tried'. No, he didn't and maybe the best example is actually the coronavirus. He was kicked dragging and screaming to the national emergency act, and even then he didn't have a 'national federal' plan(which in hindsight, wouldn't have mattered) because when he did try to assert himself, the governors were like "We have the power" and so then Trump relented.

(Now Biden's going to try his hand at "asking" them, and they may actually comply, this will do nothing but rally Trump supporters even more as the blatant hypocrisy is utterly obvious, naked and void of any shame.). Oh, remember when everyone was like "Use the National defense authorization act"(as though that was some kind of game changer.)

I've told you numerous times during the Obama regime, I have a photographic memory. I remember everything that occurred, down the letter. I don't need people to tell me what did or didn't happen, I was there. So Liberals can't make up the totalitarian record that didn't exist.

Let's just briefly go over Charlottesville(which somehow gets more mention than the gunning down of actual representatives and senators in Virginia. I guess had the Democrat openly chanted his murderous intent, that would've been the same.). First off, no one knows whether the Proud Boys participated in the "Jews will not replace us march"(and I have NO idea why you still cling or care about the march(in the same fashion that Obama said about clinging to guns and religion). People can say what they want, even inappropriate things. First amendment baby.

Don't like it, go amend the constitution. Also, the one who murdered Heather Heyer was a part of a group called the "Vanguard National", not the proud boys(or any other villain group of the week you'd want to bring up, in a fashion similar to that demagogue Kamala Harris.)

It was the FBI(before kowtowing to political pressure) who had earlier this year said there wasn't an increase in racial hate crimes. But then several months later(this month) tried to defend what was occurring on the streets by proclaiming far-right violence and then stretched their eyeballs to try and find it.

The political pressure the FBI kowtowed to, did not come from the Trump Administration. It came from the Democrats. Sensing the departure of Trump, Director Wray thought he was dancing to a new boss, that's why we had noose gate and it's why they spent time in Milwaukee when a quick evaluation of the facts told you that little one was ************.

Trump should still fire Director Wray, for his activity during the election period is nothing short of pathetic. We don't need a director who is unable to see the actual intelligence. At the very least, should he be fired, he would have to be reconfirmed by a Republican Senate where voters have made their voices clear on the man's incompetence.

There was no racism or bigotry, the FBI had said as much before being politically compromised and aspiring towards a new boss. But we don't need what they say or what they don't say, we can look for ourselves. There's no brownshirts or SS. In fact, it's the opposite. Whites are being bullied by BLM and other agitators, cancel culture is attacking civilians. There's neither a government nor an unofficial government policy. It's a bunch of Dailykos BS.

For a supposed racist government and a supposed lynching, these actors sure are free to lynch other people which is a shock.

 

He tried. But in the half asses, slapped together way your fuhrer does everything. Which is the main reason he failed.

The US may not be that lucky next time. And we know that we can’t count on the likes of you when the threat appears. You already cheered for the flag waving, gun toting. Trump never cared about courts or the rule of law, and on his behalf, neither have you.

Sorry, but you don’t get to dismiss the disgracing of hollowed ground of the University of Virginia in Charlottesville as “freedom of speech”, particularly when the Nazi rally was conducted on private property without permit or permission. (The University would never have approved a Nazi rally at the feet of Thomas Jefferson).

The clown who killed Heather Heyer drove all the way from Illinois to be at that rally, which WAS organized by the Proud Boys, dispite your completely false attempt to claim that nobody knows who started it. The aftermath was apparantly a feud inside that group, and other skinhead so-called nationalist groups.

Which isn’t surprising. These people are cowards. They like to talk about and brandish guns, indulge in self serving and made up pontification about rights and the Constitution.

Trump’s inauguration was their opportunity to emerge from under their manhole covers and strut their stuff.

Which is how we got a Nazi rally at the U Va, and white trash thighs, bullying synogogue worshippers with the aforementioned chant.

The perpetrators were all proud to show up and get on TV. But they weren’t proud of the condemnation, the consequences or the aftermath.

So, they all started feuding and pointing fingers. What a bunch of losers!!!

As for clinging to guns and religion, Obama was right about that. They were two of the core themes of Trumpism.

As for Corona, you made all of that up.

Trump had no plan, and still doesn’t. He was expected to lead, and had to be dragged, kicking and screaming just to appear at his own task force briefings. Even then, he largely used the to parade his gimmicks and grievances, ignoring the health and leadership crisis.

In the end, he said something that is probably one of the few true things he ever said, and one that is one of the defining moments in his failure.

“Frankly no, I take no responsibility at all”.

That’s your fuhrer.

 

Not my 'fuhrer', and not anybody else's 'fuhrer' either. I'm my own man, if people need a politician to tell them how to live then that's several scores of pathetic. So let's start there. I know you're colored in a view of delusion that isn't based on anything in reality. And 80 million people voted with that in mind, and that's perfectly fine. But the new government will not be given any reprise by the defeated, quite the contrary they will be scrutinized for every little thing.

The University of Virginia isn't "private ground", it's a public university owned by the US Government and thus subject to all of the amendments of our constitution. Again, don't like it. Change the constitution. Oh, and you're saying 'nuh uh' to the Proud Boys starting the rally isn't an answer, and isn't acknowledged as such.

You said they participated in this march, but you have zero proof of that. You only cite the march itself as to say "This is a REALLY REALLY bad thing"(to you). And to that I say: Hey, those are your morals, fine. But don't beat other people into submission on YOUR morals, our country doesn't work like that and I thought "America was back"

It was a march, and a chant. Nothing more or nothing less. I don't care for it, I don't give significance to it. You do, and that's a you problem personally for yourself to deal with. I'm not your shrink. That's what the election was, a shrink moment for anti- Trumpers to feel better.

But what's going to happen, 4 months, 6 months from now when the situation doesn't change? What are you going to blame then?

 

Even though I live in Los Angeles, I know many people that voted for Trump. They don't adore or even like him. He is not likable or charismatic and his opposition is no better.

 

You cheered for him and every one of his racist and anti democratic tendencies from the day he rode the esculator.

And you were very vocal in defense of these cowardly little thugs at the time. You were also busy trying to convince us that the Proud Boys are “american nationalists” and not the bigots and skinheads that they so obviously are.

Even now, you’re still doing it.

The University of Virginia is not, and never has been owned by the US Government. If you’re going to pontificate,try knowing something about what you’re talking about.

And the Proud Boys were principle sponsors, promoters and participants in the shameful events of that weekend.

https://3wv.com/news/064460-jason-kessler-proud-boys-take-to-downtown-mall/

It is not at all surprising to see other “white nationalists” from trying to pretend that there is no connection.

 

They just certified Arizona for Biden.

Hopefully, Trump is preparing to move out.