Invite Richard Gage to the Forum!

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  1. l4zarus

    l4zarus Member

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    Recently some truthers, (okay, Scott) say that the evidence for 9/11 is crushing and the media won't cover it. Because they're in on it. Or something. Whatever. The point is, now is the time for the truthers in the forum to step up and offer Richard Gage a platform for all the devastating evidence the media just won't cover.

    Why Mr. Gage? Well, Scott keeps linking to this "devastating" or crushing" evidence in this post:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=456423&p=1066183060#post1066183060

    There were no hijackers. 9/11 was an inside job. The US government planned and carried it out. The proof is crushing.

    September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M

    Pilot Who Flew The Airplanes That Crashed on 9/11 Speaks Out!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXA-enq65ng

    Explosives Technician - Loader - AE911Truth.org
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IgqJXyLbg

    ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS FOR 911 TRUTH (full unreleased version)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-V1CiuGMJo

    Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7 - AE911Truth.org
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMEHc14IWf4

    Was the 9-11 Attack the 2001 Version of "Operation Northwoods"?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoK9wvJyyU

    Operation Northwoods document
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFku_mDwbsE


    There are plausible motives.

    9/11 False Flag Conspiracy - Finally Solved (Names, Connections, Motives)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAAztWC5sT8

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/new-american-century/

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=lithium

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?...+oil&x=13&y=15

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/iran-s-...e-horizon/1937

    NEW 2015! Solving 9/11 Christopher Bollyn Live in Dallas TX Feb 12, 2015
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVHstSrC1CQ


    People who still believe the official story should check this info out.

    Why Can't They See The Truth? Psychologists Help 9 11 Truth Deniers
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xzmprkpxac

    http://www1.ae911truth.org/faqs/821-...bout-911-.html



    As one can see, Richard Gage's AE911Truth is featured prominently in this list of "crushing" evidence. I am particularly interested in where Gage asserts there were no hijackers. Exciting stuff ahead!

    We haven’t heard from Scott on whether he's contacted AE911Truth yet, but it has been less than a day. There is of course nothing to stop any other "truther" from inviting him. Once you do, just post in this thread so we know when Gage will be arriving.


    On the long shot Gage actually shows up, I would encourage those of us, um, sceptical about conspiracies to try to engage Gage(< see what I did there?) civilly as he explains his theories and answers questions. Believe me, there's plenty of awkward facts out there simply asking them will be discomfiting enough.
     
  2. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    now that made me bust a gut laughing.
    you want a 30 year professional hirise engineer to (*)(*)(*)(*) away his valuable time on a forum to explain engineering to a bunch of 'posers' who do not know the difference between a calculator and a cell phone? Now that had me laughing so hard I spit up my coffee. Warn me next time this kind of foolishness is posted, lol

    It goes without saying that if you dont understand his website you certainly wont understand it any better if he is here in person. take my advice and go to school and get your degree in engineering.
     
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    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    And you know the difference between an architect and an engineer?
     
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    he obviously can't read his own nonsense ... architects love to design buildings that exceed engineering limits just to be pretty ... us engineers have to reel them in ...

    that's why we "stamp" the submitted plans and not architects ... show me one page of a hi rise plan with a stamp impression by an architect rather than an engineer ...

    having said that, we still have project managers and superintendents going over our revisions and changes ... it takes a multitude of people to build a hi rise ...

    we try our best to make it look like an architect's "vision" ...
     
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    Seems the forum has gotten more active. That's great! When Gage arrives we can give him a big welcome!
     
  6. 9/11 was an inside job

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    and the winner for the best post on this thread? koko.:clapping::thumbsup:

    Yeah why would he waste his valuable time on a bunch of posers who only see what they want to see and obviously skipped junior high school science classes and refuse to look at the evidence or facts?:roll:


    He isnt about to waste his time taking a bunch of Bush dupes to school who dont want to accept facts 9/11 was an inside job.:roll:
     
  7. Bob0627

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    Exactly, these people are insignificant and are just a distraction. Why would anyone want to try to convince them not to do their daily job?
     
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    I went to one of Richard Gage's dog and pony shows in May of 2008 when he gave it at Chicago Circle Campus.

    This is an example of the crap:

    9/11 WTC Controlled Demolition Debate Richard Gage vs Chris Mohr
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-AaS5MOkBM

    As far as I am concerned Chris Mohr is a Liberal Arts moron and Gage should have been able to fill him full of holes without even breathing hard.

    But I got in line after the show to question Gage in 2008 and I asked him about the mass distributions of the steel and concrete in the Twin Towers. First he looked at me like I had grown a second head, then he said that the NIST was not releasing accurate blue prints. Since 9/11 more than 50 buildings over 1,000 feet tall have been constructed. Home computers have gotten more powerful since 9/11. Even the stuff that was available in 2001 was far more powerful than what was used to design the Twin Towers, an IBM 1620.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_1620

    https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP1620.html

    http://www.liquisearch.com/construction_of_the_world_trade_center/design/structural_design

    By the standards of 20 years ago the computer used to help design the WTC was a joke. But of course the Empire State Building was designed without an electronic computer. This is why the entire 9/11 Affair is a hysterical joke.

    Gage is supposed to be an architect. Why haven't they been able to recompute the data for the building if necessary after all of this time? But do they ever even talk about something as simple as the Center of Gravity of the tilted top portion of the south tower. NO!

    It is like AE911Truth wants to just be "Believed" rather than actually explain things so everyone can "understand" for themselves.

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  9. Bob0627

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    I never cared much for these "debates" set up by AE911T. I always thought they demeaned themselves by conducting these with OCT supporters/defenders.

    That's one reason why I thought the debates were ineffective and possibly backfired, Gage is not a debater, he should just stick to what he does best.

    I've read many articles and watched many of the videos, it's not just about Gage, there are many others in all sorts of scientific disciplines and I'm quite satisfied with and understand the explanations. Without these people, we'd probably still be in the stone age with regard to identifying the OCT as a scam. They're not perfect for sure but then again we're all dealing with a lot of unknowns and so are they. IMO their work is exemplary and more importantly, critical.

    My focus is not on theories, my focus is on exposing the scam and the scammers. That's not theory, it's black and white fact based on their own evidence. AE911T is only one source, there's much more. These people are criminals who were complicit in (or more like had a direct hand in) murdering over 3,000 innocent people on 9/11 and caused massive damage, then used that crime as pretext to destroy hundreds of thousands of other lives and commit all sorts of other human rights atrocities. And they're still at work today.
     
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    Chris Mohr outright lied in this "debate".

    At 16:10 he says, "There were 90,000 plus liters of jet fuel that were exploded out there".

    The first time I heard that years ago, I thought 90,000??? I had always seen the data in gallons. Each plane had about 10,000 gallons of fuel which was 40% of the full capacity of 24,000 gallons. 90,000 liters is the maximum capacity of the tanks. The planes only had 38,000 liters and some sources say less than that.

    The airlines provide enough fuel to reach the destination plus a little extra for safety. They do not want planes landing with lots of extra fuel because it is dangerous and would waste money flying unnecessary fuel around.

    It is also funny how he says the planes were 282,000 pounds. That is a really impressive number. It is 141 tons. The buildings were 400,000 tons. Do you want that in pounds? LOL Mohr is a propagandist.

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    And this is one reason why Gage should not be debating about 9/11, besides the fact that he's not a professional debater. As an aside who the **** is Chris Mohr anyway? He's not a relevant expert in anything, just a die hard OCT lover. If anything, Gage should have debated someone from NIST or Popular Mechanics, that would have made more sense but still worthless. I've heard Tony Szamboti in a debate too. He's a brilliant and highly knowledgeable engineer but he's a really poor debater.

    In a debate, no one needs to support any claims. We see this time and time again with the Presidential debates, where each candidate at times makes false, misleading or exaggerated claims. Then the next day, something like Fact Checker lists all the lies and half-truths (not that Fact Checker is the ultimate truth either, just an example). Unfortunately the damage is already done and many in the audience have already swallowed the BS and the better debater won regardless of the truth.
     
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    I was looking for an appropriate thread to post this.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/911-a...elieve-in-their-own-brand-of-miracles/5630813

    (excerpt)
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    Interestingly, Griffin divides the world into three types of people:
    • Those guided by evidence
    • Those guided by their paradigms of how the world is thus if 9/11 being a false flag does not fit into their paradigms of how the world works they simply will not consider the evidence
    • Those guided by wishful-and-fearful thinking thus if the idea of their own government perpetrating an horrific crime on their own people is too awful to bear they simply will not believe the evidence
      Shouldn’t self-styled skeptics, by definition, be of the first type? Apparently, not a one is. They seem to be all of the second type or possibly third.

    --------------------------------------------

    Documentary about Cognitive Dissonance and 9/11

     
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    The Current Events section, its own thread.

    EDIT: Or the Science section, also its own thread.
     
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    Yep as can already be seen.
     
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    At One Million Views, Richard Gage’s Interview Is the Most-Watched C-SPAN Video — Ever

    Earlier this week, Richard Gage’s 2014 C-SPAN interview surpassed one million views on CSPAN.org, cementing its place as the network’s most-watched video of all time.

    Gage’s 40-minute appearance on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal has dwarfed all other videos, receiving 150,000 more views than the second-ranked video and nearly twice as many views as the fourth highest video, a 1994 press conference with Hillary Clinton on the Whitewater investigation.

    Read the rest ...

    http://www.ae911truth.org/news/438-cspan-one-million-views.html

    The interview:

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?320748-5/washington-journal-architects-engineers-911-truth&start=0

    It's obvious people want to know and are still interested in 9/11.
     
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