Iowa governor signs nation's strictest abortion regulation - Christian Alternative

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  1. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Catholic adoption agencies did a lot of good. But the government is hostile to religion and it shut the doors on Catholic adoption offices. The government seeks to control EVERYTHING. Government is evil.
     
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    Well I would say saving a babies life is a little more than just fine.

    The idea that a woman would kill a 2nd or 3rd trimester baby instead is not fine.
     
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    Yes, they have protections, they do NOT have rights....and , yes, it is up to the pregnant woman alone to decide what is done with it....
     
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    NO, not all children find homes....some children "age out" of the system having never found those "loving, all-life-is-precious"" parents...



    AND, for EVERYONE on their high horse about adoption:


    No woman should be FORCED to gestate for 9 months, suffer the temporary and PERMANENT damage and pain caused by pregnancy, suffer time off work, possible job loss, and financial /educational/career setbacks just to give someone else a FREE kid....and make holier than thou do gooders feel all warm amd fuzzy because they FORCED a woman to do something,.
     
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    Where? Did it get deleted?

    If you answered my questions I'm not seeing it. Anyway, in answer to your question. I'm pro choice when it comes to women's health, and health in general. I don't like abortion any more than you do. However, I don't think women should be forced to carry to term. Do you believe they should be? How would that be enforced, and who pays for the health of women that are being forced to carry to term?
     
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    You can respect it all you want as long as that respect doesn't DISRESPECT the woman's rights...


    and yes, 6 weeks is too short of time for some women who may not even know they are pregnant...see, women aren't breeding cattle, they're all different and have different situations.


    Why a cut off at 6 weeks? A fetus isn't even viable until 23 weeks ( and EXCEPTIONS do NOT matter)
     
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    Ya, Catholics think it's better if a kid is brought up in an institution rather than a loving caring home.....they really do NOT like children very much..
     
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    Wow! That's Repub's Biggest Let's Make Government Bigger moves yet!

    When an American citizen becomes pregnant they are owned , exactly like slaves, by Big Government.
     
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    I reasked in the second line which you copied into your post.

    You were asked first.

    I'm an atheist and do not believe women should kill their babies before they are born, why do you?

    Well DUH I am for women's health and health in general but I find abortion not very healthy for the baby that is killed in the process.

    Why? What do you have against abortion that you do not like it?

    I think that with all the modern and highly effective methods of birth control and even the ability of a woman to make herserlf infertile even after interocourse occurs that indescriminate killing of unborn babies should be limited especially when we have so many desperate couples wanting to adopt those babies. Where do disagree?
     
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    AND, for EVERYONE on their high horse about adoption:


    No woman should be FORCED to gestate for 9 months, suffer the temporary and PERMANENT damage and pain caused by pregnancy, suffer time off work, possible job loss, and financial /educational/career setbacks just to give someone else a FREE kid....and make holier than thou do gooders feel all warm and fuzzy because they FORCED a woman to do something,.
     
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    They weren't politically correct, so they were targeted for destruction. Big brother sucks. Government sucks.
     
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    Yes, government sucks especially when if a citizen becomes pregnant they belong to the Big Government....something that Republicans seem to like despite protestations to the contrary.


    BTW, it had nothing to do with being politically correct, it had to do with allowing any couple the right to adopt one of what some call "precious life". Catholics didn't seem to think they were precious enough to give to a good home.
     
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    So once she has the kid she has her rights restored ?





    If a pregnant woman has no rights how can she even sign a legal contract?
     
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    And I've answered. I'm pro choice. You asked someone else the question and I jumped in. You're not confusing me with someone else are you? Just curious.

    and... already answered. I'm pro choice.

    Are you really? Forcing someone to do something against their will is healthy? Explain.

    It's ending a life, but I don't think women should be FORCED to carry to term. Other posters have said the same thing I have yet you don't seem to get what we're saying.

    Adoption is fine, forcing a woman to remain pregnant is not.

    Now see, I've answered your questions. Why are you repeatedly dodging mine?

    I'll ask again...

    Why should a woman not have a choice as to what happens to her body? Should women be forced to carry to term regardless of how they become pregnant, and how would this be enforced? Who's going to pay for enforcing a woman to carry to full term if the pregnant woman can't afford it? Taxes?

    Can you please answer those questions? I was courteous enough to answer yours, and more than once. Why not answer these?
     
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    YES!

    Protecting innocent unborn babies should be priority number one.

    Making America Great Again one state at a time.
     
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    Uh, why the exceptions?


    """However, the measure would not ban abortion after six weeks in all cases -- some exemptions include instances of rape, incest, fetal abnormalities or to save the mother’s life.""""""""


    Why aren't those fetuses ""innocent unborn babies"" ??


    BTW, this is a duplicate thread....
     
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    It's probably nowhere allowed in Africa to have an abortion. You know what happens there? They do it anyways. You know what the consequence is? In some of them countries the main cause of dying for women is getting an abortion.

    So,.. how about that? You support the banning of abortions and let women kill themselves in their desperate attempts?
     
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    There's already a thread about this... here (link). What's the deal with repeats on this site, most other sites and forums delete repeats? I see that it's a different source but the topic is the same, so why allow the repeat?
     
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    It’s ok to kill babies if their dad is a rapist I guess
     
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    However, the measure would not ban abortion after six weeks in all cases -- some exemptions include instances of rape, incest, fetal abnormalities or to save the mother’s life.

    Come on man... It was not much to read..
     
  21. FoxHastings

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    TOO

    """However, the measure would not ban abortion after six weeks in all cases -- some exemptions include instances of rape, incest, fetal abnormalities or to save the mother’s life.""""""""


    Why?........ aren't those fetuses ""innocent unborn babies"" TOO??

    The procedure and outcome of an abortion are identical ...and it doesn't matter whether the sex was forced or consensual. What that says, when these "people" make an exception is that they only want to punish women for having consensual sex.

    IF they really thought the fetus was such a precious life they would try to ban all abortions...

    Just another example of Republicans and their LOVE for Bigger Government and total disrespect for women....who they think have less rights than anyone else.
     
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    No, it has more to do with them wanting to punish women who have consensual sex..
     
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    Abortion punishes the unborn child.

    Why don't you care about the fricking unborn child?

    Are you that morbid?
     
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    My comment was based on that exact section. Did you even read my post?
     
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    Wow, hyperbole much?

    Anyway, since this thread hasn't been aborted yet I'll ask you what I asked another poster in the original thread of this same topic...

    Why should a woman not have a choice as to what happens to her body? Should women be forced to carry to term regardless of how they become pregnant, and how would this be enforced? Who's going to pay for enforcing a woman to carry to full term if the pregnant woman can't afford it? Taxes?
     
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