Iran fires rockets at Iraq base hosting American troops

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  1. vman12

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    Especially when it destroys your carefully crafted reality.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No.

    Technically they voted themselves into socialism.

    Then had to die to get back to democracy.
     
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    Yes, the only country in the ME with actual human rights, democracy and country where all faiths and people's exist peacefully must be removed.

    That way they can get back to the stone age.
     
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    And here I was thinking I couldn't see anything more insane than what I am already reading. I was wrong.
     
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    I think we protect our national interest and we are not dictating policy in the ME. Do you believe terrorism is a legitimate policy? And we have had a policy of diplomacy backed by action. And what did Obama do be appease Iran then draw a redline in the sand and back down showing the rest of the world his feckless leadership.

    So do you support Trump's policy of pulling out which is his goal. He has Iran now back on their heels and they know he will back up our policy and strike back with struck and he can do that from anywhere in the world.
     
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    The WORLD says they cannot have nuclear weapons and the USA could care less about their internal policy if they kept that policy internal and stopped being the biggest state sponsor of terrorism around the world. We went to war in Iraq to remove a similar terrorist at the helm and then turned the country over to a freely elected Iraq. That is NOT the policy of Iran.

    Do you believe the economic sanctions on Iran should be lifted along with the travel bans? That Iran should be free to continue it worldwide terrorism to achieve it's goals?
     
  8. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    It was voted in by democratic means.
     
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    People can openly practice Christianity in Iran.

    The Israelis spit on Christians.
     
  10. Hoosier8

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    Such crap you spew. There are Muslims and Christians in democratic Israel. Iran persecutes Christians and if a Muslim converts they are killed.
     
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    It did no such thing. You only made a reference, nothing specific to back it up.
     
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    Nonsense
    Of course we dictate policy. We do it all the time. Case in point would be the subject...Iran. We back the coup to put the Shah in power and backed him while he did terrible things in his country. The same goes for Israel. They have to dance to our music. Now we do the same with the Saudi's because if we didn't, Iran would topple them.
    As far as terrorism as a policy, it depends on the point of view you look at it from. At the start of our own country we had acts of terrorism all the time against the British. Seemed OK then...right?
    I don't know what red line with Iran you're talking about and "appeasement".
    Of course we should pull out. Obama did on Bush's timeline and you crucified him so to say that Trump is doing better than Obama is ridiculous. Iran is no more back on their heels now than 3 weeks ago, in fact, I would say they are more on their toes bobbing and weaving, looking for an opening. There will be consequences for Trump's actions.
    To think otherwise is beyond foolish.
    The only people in the world that think Obama was a "feckless leader" are Trump voters.
     
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    Of course the Obama knee pad group thinks he was strong and great, even though he was feckless.
     
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    If they weren't back on their heels they wouldn't have warned us of the faux attack on the base so we could evacuate or men and assets so if their misses missed no American would be killed and any buildings hit would be empty and then they backed down. Trump didn't send them pallet loaded with $1.5B which they have used in their terrorist activities which have killed Americans. And the WORLD thought he was a feckless leader and they preferred and weaker America. Trump has gotten them to bone up and step up to the plate and take over more responsibility for their own defense. Iran stop with being the largest exporter and support of terrorism and stop trying to make the regions subservient to them no problem do what they want in their country the US has no interest in dictating that policy to them. But Iran is nowhere near that.
     
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    The shah was put in place by the ussr and the UK during WW2.
     
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    You make the misjudgement, that i would actually care. I have news for you, i dont.
     
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    I think you agree quite well, that the iranians always named their nation Iran and never used a greek word for their country
     
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    Tze world says nothing. China and Russia dont care. Germany and France see it as manageable. You are not the World. The biggest sponsor of terror is saudi arabia and USA.

    Germany has no trade restrictions with Iran and no travel bans.
     
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    In this particular instance, both are. Only the media coverage of the statements by Iran's aerospace commander are a bit misleading. What he said (and I watched his briefing) can be more accurately summarized as follows:

    1- Iran did not intend specifically to cause US casualties. Our beef isn't with US soldiers. If we want to kill US soldiers, and we can't rule out being forced to go down that line, we could have taken out around 500 soldiers just in the initial strike.

    2- While Iran did not intend to kill US forces and was after the machinery of the US military, including the drone and drone shelter that had assassinated General Soleimani and the headquarters used to coordinate the US operation of the drone, American casualties were unavoidable and can be presumed. Iran has information from its sources in Iraq (documented information), that US helicopters and C-130 aircraft evacuated injured soldiers and took them to Israel. (This part seemed dubious to me, unless Iran releases the information General Hajizadeh was alluding to. It appears that the tip off from the Iraqi government allowed the US forces to bunker down in safety a the missiles hit the US bases. My own view is that there might have been a handful of injuries notwithstanding, which the US is basically covering up and which explains the helicopters which Iran says took out injured soldiers).

    3- Iran had prepared several subsequent waves of missile strikes, and those missile strikes would have caused around 5,000 casualties for the US, if the US had not stood down and instead escalated the fight.
     
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    That is what the German government tells it's people but in reality Germany is doing as it is told to.
     
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    The UN does. Germany is a member state. But I get it you are pro Islamic Jihad and anti-west.
     
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    Well, wrong as it is, you're allowed your own opinion. You're the one that has to live with the fact that you can't back up what you spew.
     
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    Meh, ask the JV team.
     
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    Es spielte keine Rolle, Sobo... I'm not going to quarrel with you about this. If you want to believe that 'Persia' never existed as 'Persia', then that's OK with me....

    After all, as the famous English author, William Shakespeare wrote in his play, "Romeo and Juliet"...

    "What's in a name? That which we call a rose
    By any other name would smell as sweet....
    "
     
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    Your reply is barely comprehensible and what is wrong. Too much Fox news BS.
     

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