Iraqi UNSTABLE!

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  1. kk8

    kk8 New Member Past Donor

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    I heard Senator Graham talking about how Iraqi has become more and more unstable on Greta last night. So, I decided to check it out...there are numerous sources reporting on how Iraqi has become a very dangerous place. and increasingly influenced by Iran. Is it any wonder why no one in this administration is talking about Iraqi right now before election? The entire Middle East is on fire with violence erupting in once stable areas...we are being lied to and not informed about what's going on...on purpose. Very serious situations going on in Iraqi....educate yourself, and please vote this administration out in November, our lives could depend on it.

    Obama: "we ended the war in Iraqi" Really?

    Why isn't anyone talking about the civil rights violations in Iraqi?

    Iraqi Government Trying to Push Refugees Out of Waleed Camp
    16/08/2012

    Iraq-Syria border -- Iranian Kurdish refugees residing in Waleed camp suffer from lack of services such as drinking water, electricity and a medical center.

    In addition, Iraq’s Ministry of Interior is pressuring them to leave.

    Waleed is located in Anbar province in the west, near the Syrian border. The camp -- which accommodates 120 Palestinian families, 24 Kurdish families and 19 Arab families from Ahwaz, Iran -- was established in June 2009.

    For the past three months, the Iraqi government has been using various tactics to force the families to leave the camp, such as removing basic services like electricity and water. However, residents of the camp have been defying the government’s decision.

    After Iraq’s liberation in 2003, Anbar province became unstable due to its location on the border with Syria.

    Iman Muhammad, a Kurdish resident in the camp, described the conditions as “horrible.”

    “Even wild animals couldn’t survive in such conditions,” she said.

    Members of Muhammad’s family were refugees in the camp Al-Tash in Diyala province when Iman was born 23 years ago. Now a grown woman, her situation has not changed and her family still lives in the refugee camp.

    She told Rudaw, “The worst life that you can imagine is our life in Waleed. We are all illiterate. Our children have no education programs. When we become ill, we don’t have medication or doctors to treat us. I am surprised that the condition of life here has not driven us to commit suicide.”

    Muhammad, who used to be a member of the Party of Free Life of Kurdistan (PJAK), believes it is Iran that is pressuring Baghdad to have the refugees leave the camp.

    Residents of the camp said that the Iraqi government turned off their electricity in April and that it didn’t return until the beginning of Ramadan.

    Bisak Qamar, an 11-year-old child in the camp, said, “Learning Arabic is the only education we have and we will not receive any school certificate for that. We are missing out in life. I want to live in Europe. They have all sorts of activities and games for children there. I want to go there.”

    Muhammad Khorsandi, who raises awareness about the awful conditions of the camp, recorded an official from Iraq’s Ministry of Interior threatening residents of the camp if they refused to leave.

    Khorsandi said, “He gathered us and strongly urged us to leave. But we said we wouldn’t leave unless they sent us to another country.”

    The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) promised the people temporary settlement in the camp until transferred to a third country. But the residents of the camp said the UNHCR didn’t fulfill its promise.

    Dindar Doski, Iraq’s minister of immigration, said Waleed is out of his jurisdiction and therefore he cannot help them.

    Doski, a Kurdish minister in the Iraqi government, told Rudaw, “I have information that the Iraqi government and UNHCR have reached an agreement to get rid of the refugees by sending the Palestinian families to Baghdad, the Arabs from Ahwaz to Basra and the Kurds to the Kurdistan Region. However, the Kurds refused to be sent to the Kurdistan Region and that created a problem for the Ministry of Interior.”

    Muhammad said, “We know many Iranian Kurdish refugees who live in Kurdistan Region refugee camps have terrible conditions. We don’t want to end up like them. We want to be sent to another country or else we will never leave.”

    The Kurdish residents of the camp are all from Iranian Kurdistan and settled as refugees in southern Iraq in 1981.

    http://www.rudaw.net/english/news/iraq/5097.html

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...n-a-year-ago/2011/07/30/gIQAkHvuiI_story.html

    http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/201...us-u-s-obligation-to-iraqi-refugees-persists/

    http://articles.businessinsider.com...iraqi-government-officials-oil-infrastructure


    Is Iran influencing Iraqi?

    http://www.turkishweekly.net/columnist/3589/iran’s-dangerous-game-in-iraq.html

    http://www.npr.org/2011/12/14/143711939/how-much-influence-will-iran-have-in-iraq

    http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/irans-influence-iraq
     
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    This is news? Iraq has been unstable ever since "mission accomplished". That pastiche of a democratic government is powerless to stop the continual sectarian murders, bombings and assassinations. The same thing can be said of Afghanistan. When will Americans realise that the imposition, by a foreign power, of 'democracy' is oxymoronic to the fundamental concepts and philosophy of democracy, is antithetical to the way things work in essentially tribal societies, and that imposing an unfamiliar system of government does more harm than good?
     
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    Let's hope so. That might help to make Iraq more stable.
     
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    Prepare from some righteous right-wing indignation and outrage! Don't forget Iran is, according to them, the home of nothing less than foaming at the mouth, crazed, Jihadists bent on roasting your babies. It's also the home of these:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Hl6wx2F9c
     
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    They dont need to foam at the mouth to be a threat, their support of terror groups, threats by their leaders on other states and concealment of Nuclear devices is enough,
     
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    Concealment ? What 'cos Inspecter can't find them you mean they must be concealed ? Ohhh la la !!!!!
     
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    The policy America follows is never democracy or liberty for a country, but control and exploitation.

    remind you of someone?
     
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    Here's a few hints on how to discuss topics intelligently:

    a. When referring to a foreign nation, spell the name correctly.

    b. Doublecheck your quotes. Obama never said "We ended the war in Iraq". What he said was we would have "all troops out of Iraq" by years end.

    c. Realize we should have never been in Iraq in the first place. The Iraqi people didn't want us there.

    d. Likewise Afghanistan.

    e. Regarding c. and d: Like Vietnam, you can't make a people change their society by imposing ours upon them. Only the people can do that.
     
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    Maliki appears to be moving closer to Russia.


    http://www.upi.com/Business_News/En...tching-Exxon-for-Russians/UPI-23581350488674/

    Maliki mulls ditching Exxon for Russians

    Oct. 17, 2012 at 11:44 AM


    BAGHDAD, Oct. 17 (UPI) -- Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is reportedly thinking of throwing out U.S. oil giant Exxon Mobil from the giant West Qurna-1 oilfield for signing an "illegal" production deal with semiautonomous Kurdistan and bringing in Russian companies instead.

    This appears to be part of an effort by Maliki, who has moved closer to eastern neighbor Iran since U.S. forces withdrew from Iraq in December 2011, to back off the relationship with the United States in favor of Russia.

    Under Vladimir Putin, restored as president, Russia's been driving to restore its Cold War influence in the Arab world.

    Maliki signed a $4.2 billion arms deal with Russia Oct. 9 during a high-profile three-day visit. That makes Iraq Russia's second largest defense client after India.


    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/En...or-Russians/UPI-23581350488674/#ixzz29f1zrqY4
     
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    Interesting article.

    This will lead to conflict, no doubt.
     
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    I don't think so... Exxon should never have signed a contract with the Kurds.. They screwed up.
     
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    Because Inspectors know they exist and Iran denys
     
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    Something to consider................
     
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    How's that? Weren't kurds given autonomy on such matters as oil production and its revenues?
     
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    No.. They just took it.

    I knew Exxon screwed up at the time.
     
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    Exxon will buy out the contract, I'm sure.
     
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    I've understood it for a long time. It is my government you need to convince.
     
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    What?

    Iran can kick them out and keep the infrastructure.
     
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    Tell me the truth, now. Didn't you KNOW that was going to happen back in 2001? Or are you still buying that bouquets of flowers nonsense?
     
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    From idiots like Cheney and Rumsfeld??
     
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    Korea and Vietnam should have given somebody a clue. I remember Republicans saying "no more Vietnams" until they got a chance to jump on Iraq with both feet.
     
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    Who is "Iraqi"? Is there some individual from Iraq that is unstable?
     
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    Its a TYPO.... gag on a gnat.
     
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    This was part of the deal when we invaded.

    Russia was always going to rearm Iraq, after the over throw of Saddam.
     
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    Considering the region, it's relatively stable.

    I don't see what you expect to be different with Romney as president though. If we brought forces back into Iraq, it's not like it would stabilize things or end Iran's influence.

    If Iran influencing Iraq is what worries you, then you should have thought of that before removing Saddam. He was the only thing stopping that.
     

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