Is Donald Trump a Role Model for Your Children?

1992-2000 is not ancient history by any standard...and if it were, history is to be learned from, not forgotten and swept aside to get what you want. The former is for wise people, the latter for fools.

 

The history lesson to be learned from that episode is that Bill Clinton lied under oath. Nobody is accusing Trump of lying under oath or anything like that.

 

Holly shyt. Are all those people who have been trashing Bill Clinton on this forum since this sordid affairs of Trump came out.....dead???? Sheesh....some of them are posting in this very thread.

 

There's a reason for that. And that is Trump have not been deposed regarding this matter. This is why his lawyers are doing their damnest to keep Trump from having to testify.

 

....wow, you really don't understand history at all.

Ken Starr's investigation was over Whitewater, a real estate deal the Clinton's were involved with. He then, as any special prosecutor is allowed to do, used his office to investigate any and all possible crimes associated with the target of the investigation. Bill Clinton lied under oath about affairs, and that was used to impeach him. If you think that was the point, then you missed the point.

And let's be honest, Donald Trump can't help but lie. Anyone being honest knows that. Even Donald Trump knows it. His exaggerations as he calls them are lies under oath. So perjury is the most likely charge Trump will face. And the only reason he hasn't been accused of it, AS PRESIDENT, is because he has yet to sit down with Mueller under oath. If it happens, yeah, he's going to lie.

 

No serious person thinks Trump is going to talk to any of those fools. He didn't lose his right to remain silent just because he became president.

 

Then WHY were those other people , those OFF TOPIC people, brought up????


The title of the thread is :Is Donald Trump a Role Model for Your Children?

 

1. I thought it was funny.
2. A president is a president.

 

Do you have kids? Shameful.

 

So basically Christians just need to abandon Jesus’s teachings is what you are saying?

 

Non political Christians need to keep doing what they're doing and allow the political ones who are willing to get their hands dirty do whatever it takes to defend them.

 

Amen.

 

So the threat of our destruction at the hands of cosmopolitan internationalist elites outweighs the threat posed by Putin's personal armed forces, sub/land based nukes and international assassins?!? What about macho-men internationalist elites? You don't live in fear of them too? Do you believe that Putin isn't an elite cosmopolitan internationalist? Or are international cosmopolitan internationalist elites, good but domestic cosmopolitan internationalist elites, bad?

Defending the indefensible is the norm for people who believe that the ends justifies the means. Do you even know what a role model is? You must not be anywhere close to the point of raising children.

It's bizarre when people have no knowledge of our history let alone who their enemies are. 70 years ago Trump's behavior wouldn't have raised many eyebrows. And now after our civil, women's and gay rights movements, America's Lech-in-Chief makes a good role model?

For you and his excusers Trump is a, "little rough around the edges at times"?!? I would claim that the majority of normal Americans would find a man that hits on the women who remind him of his daughter, pretty damn creepy...

 

So basically Christians need to be openly hypocritical. Didn't some guy named Yeshua something or other say something about hypocrites?

 

Did you think we were going to lay down and take it forever?

 

Take what? Not being allowed to oppress others for a change?

 

Donald Trump is the best role model cause Jesus ain't enough!

 

lol spoken like a true communist.

 

You are a mind reader? You got zero clue what you are talking about with your nonsense. My father and I fought the communists. What have you done for your country other than spouting ignorant nonsense. Conservative illogical thinking.

 

Here is someone accusing Trump of lying under oath.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...ched-trump-testify-under-oath-it-isn-t-pretty

 

TIL Trump is not a serious person.

Or, is it more accurate to say that there are no serious people who believe Trump when he says he would very much like to and looks forward to speaking with Mueller?

 

What's the strategic advantage for Trump to talk to someone so ridiculous that they'll try to catch him in any little white lie just to charge him with something?

I can't wait to hear your take.

 

Several things to unpack here.

First, you said that no serious person thought Trump would voluntarily talk with the investigator. So is Trump, himself, not a serious person or is it more accurate to say that serious people do not believe Trump's statement on his willingness to voluntarily talk with the investigator?

Second, I am a lawyer and I know that Trump is a walking perjury trap (see point one). I would absolutely recommend against a voluntary interview unless I could literally control the words coming out of his mouth. And that was the effective recommendation of John Dowd, the attorney who just resigned over a disagreement with Trump on how to handle the investigation.

Third, lying to a federal investigator is always a bad thing and, indeed, it is a crime. So to claim that Mueller's team is "ridiculous" because they will try to catch him in any white lie is akin to saying you should never voluntarily speak with an investigator (which is true by the way, or you should at least have your attorney present), but Mueller's team is no different that any prosecutor or investigator, state, federal, or local, when it comes to that issue.

Fourth, the reason you voluntarily agree to an interview is the ability to control some of the conversation and, if you are speaking before a grand jury, you get to have your attorney present. If they subpoena you to appear, then you do not.

 

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Or catch him in really big lies, yes?