Is homosexuality an instance of sexual deviancy?

What do you guys think? I think it definitely is but I am sure some people will just disagree.

Perhaps someone might say that there is no such a thing as "sexual deviancy". People are born that way, they can't help themselves. Gay men can't help being attracted to men, just as how a necrophiliac cannot help being attracted to corpses. If this is the case, then logically, there should never even be such a thing as sexual deviancy. And if we go down this road, then I demand that schools across the country start teaching children that being attracted to corpses, or door-knobs, or lizards ...etc is perfectly normal and acceptable just like homosexuality.

Perhaps someone else might say that there is such a thing as sexual deviancy, and it covers fetishes like necrophilia and being attracted to animals, inanimate objects...and things like these. However, it does not include homosexuality. If this is their argument, then I want to ask them why homosexuality is normal but all the others aren't.

Your thoughts?

 

It think being preoccupied with the personal sex lives of others is very strange indeed.

 

I am not concerned with any particular person's sexual proclivity in a personal manner. I am speaking about general concepts and commenting on social phenomena that I am witnessing. Sorry if you can't tell the difference.

 

Yes

 

It is apparently some kind of birth defect.

 

Conservatives need to stop worrying about what adults do to each other in the privacy of their own homes.

i mean seriously, get a grip folks.

 

I dont have a problem with gays wanting to have sex with other gay men, but when they start demanding that they be leaders for boy scouts or that they get to read homosexuality-themed books to children then I have a problem with it.

 

maybe you should worry more about Catholic priests raping little kids.

 

no, it appears that you really really do.

what do you suggest? electro-shock therapy for all Gays?

 

That's not relevant, but I have no regard for Catholics either.

 

I would if this thread was about Catholic priests but it's not. Let's get back on topic.

 

No but I don't think gay people should go around demanding that the entire society bend over backwards to accommodate them.

 

no one is asking you to bend over for them.

 

Bending over backwards to accommodate them, not "bend over for them". The latter has a sexual undertone.

Also, the gays certainly ARE acting as if they expect me to bend over backwards to accommodate them.

 

"the gays".

LOL!!!!!

 

For over 2,000 years, religious people have imprisond gay people, stoned them to death, chemically castrated them, got them fired from their jobs and disrespected their military service.

And now one gay couple asks for a cake and these same idiots start wailing and gnashing their teeth and crying about "the gay agenda ".

Gimme a f**king break. Pathetic.

 

no, being gay isn't a "deviancy".

 

I never claimed that there was a "gay agenda". I just don't think gays should be allowed to use the coercive powers of the government to get their way. If some bakery doesn't want to bake a cake for their wedding, they should just go and find another shop that will.

But you are getting off-topic. Do you think homosexuality is a form of sexual deviancy, or not?

 

Consider it a backlash for putting it into the schools.

Want to do that? We might just push for electroshock therapy.

Or you can take it out of the schools.

Your choice.

 

It's a variant of sexuality.

You can call it a deviation, if the numbers indicate it. In this case they do . Clearly, we're biologically programmed to heterosexuality, so any alternative is necessarily then a deviation.

 

It depends where you are. Deviancy exists in a social context and is essentially deviation from acceptable social norms. Social norms are constantly changing though so where something would be deviant at one place and time it won’t be at another. This applies well beyond homosexuality though. There is a massive range of individual desires preferences and practices, many of which won’t be the norm in a given societal context. That thing you like to do (or would like to do if you could find someone who’d do it with you) is deviant too.

I don’t think that’s relevant in context. What you are and what you do are two entirely different things. One of the problems with this topic is that so many people automatically associate homosexuals with a very specific sub-set of sexual activity (something those people often seem to enjoy thinking about) when in reality, people who are romantically and sexually attracted to others of the same sex have as diverse and varied sex lives (or lack thereof) as the rest of us. Deviancy is about behaviour though, pretty much independently of underlying orientation or preference.

In general, I think declaring things as deviant or not isn’t especially helpful. It’s clearly a word with a lot of baggage and is used as a tool to attack certain groups of people, often with little or no real justification. As I said, deviancy is defined on the basis of social norms but how those norms come about isn’t always rational and is usually defined by a tiny powerful minority with persona biases and vested interests. It’d be more helpful to look in to the reason (or lack of) behind such determinations. Ask yourself why you believe (or want to believe) something is deviant, not why other people tell you it is or how you can equate it with different things communally called deviant but an honest logical assessment from first principles.

 

Given that it's an act between consenting adults, no.

 

I believe there was a guy in Japan, who fantasized about chopping off his penis, cooking it, and then feeding it to someone. And he did manage to find someone who agreed to all of these things. This was between two consenting adults too but I don't think we would call this normal.

 

So in your twisted mind, this equals a request for a wedding cake?
Have you stopped to think about the fact that you're not normal before you accuse others? Didn't think so.

 

Please keep things civil. Just because I hold a different view from you, it does not mean that my mind is "twisted" or that I am "not normal".

My example is to illustrate the point that just because a sexual act is consensual between two adults, it does not necessarily mean it's normal.