Is it me or are liberals now routinely anti Christian and anti Semitic?

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  1. james M

    james M Banned

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    and a president is figurehead of USA but a corrupt president figurehead is not the USA 1+1=2. A child would know that but not a liberal.
     
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    this is false because teaching billions the great commandment: love thy neighbor as thy self, was Christianity during the middle ages when we were transitioned from Roman Coliseum morality to Christian morality. 1+1=2
     
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    A couple?? You millions and millions learned the great commandments from Jesus and 1000's and 1000's of priests in 1000's and 1000's of towns all across Western Civilization, and passed on those commandments to millions of family, friends, neighbors, associates. Now does the liberal understand what a child could understand?
     
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    1) teaching billions to love thy neighbor as thyself is not an atrocity but the greatest accomplishment in human history

    2) That many early christian leaders were more Roman then Christian does not mean the transition from Roman Coliseum morality to Christian morality was a evil thing. A transition is the only possibly way to get from point A to point B. Inconceivable that you didn't know that?
     
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    I welcomed the change from Rome wherein everyone was under the thumb of earthly totalitarian rulers like Ceasar to a Christian system based on the individual and his choices as a free man.

    You apparently oppose these changes and preferred a
    continuation of Roman Coliseum morality. See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?
     
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    Feel embarrassed yet?? Liberty hating Christianity?????????????????????????

    Thomas Jefferson:
    "God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God?
     
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    Just read the TEXTS of said religions and you too will be against those religions.
     
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    Actually, it's: "love they neighbor as thyself, and if he DARES to pick a different religion then our loving god will horrifically burn him alive forever in the afterlife no matter how ethical of a life he's lead!"

    Truly a disgusting belief system.

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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't blame your lack of understanding of Jefferson on me. Jefferson is not referring to the Christian God .. the use of the term "Creator" in the Constitution is "intentional"

    The invocation of God/the creator is specific to the purpose of putting individual liberty "ABOVE" the legitimate authority of Gov't. The principles that Jefferson used came out of classical liberalism which had little to do with Christianity.

    Here is Jefferson addressing Christianity directly.

    Feel embarrassed yet ????
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do not even know what Classical Liberalism is - and your understanding of the History of the Christianity is even worse. There was far more individual liberty under Roman Rule than under Christianity.

    Just because you make up nonsense - does not make that nonsense true.
     
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    Repeating this lie over and over does will make not make that lie any less false. 1+1=2
     
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    Quite amusing watching you squirming out of your failed logic. Thus now you resort to ad hom attacks. I doubt you understand 1+1 = 2 with your lame logic.
     
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    Many conservatives like yourself do not love your neighbor, thus the "teaching" is a massive fail.
     
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    Jefferson owned slaves did he not?
     
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    If Christianity actually practiced the Golden rule - the world would be a better place - so much for teaching Billions. When the Church had power it spent its time torturing, killing and persecuting people - and when it was not doing that it was stealing from people and securing more power for itself by instilling fear and terror during the 1000 years of horror.

    I agree that this 1000 years of horror was the greatest atrocity in human history.
     
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    It's not any particular religion, but the fundamentalists who believe that their religions should be forced on everyone who are the issue. Islam isn't a bad religion anymore than Christianity is. I mean, the bible is as bad as the Quran when it comes to ordering the murders of all non-believers, and justifying the subjucation of women, etc.....

    And let me tell you something. The laws in the US are the ONLY thing keeping far right Christian nutjobs from going all Osama Bin Ladin on everyone they dislike and chopping heads off. I mean, they literally call bombing abortion clinics "god's work" they openly praise terrorism committed by Christians. So, you can't tell me that the vast majority of them wouldn't be just as radical as anyone is Al Queda or ISIS is there werent a well enforced legal system in the US to prevent and deter it.
     
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    It's just you
     
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    Thanks to Christianity there are a lot more people practicing the golden rule than the Colosseum rule.Was that simple enough for the liberal to understand?
     
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    So we’ve got a liberal who thinks the transition from Roman Nazi to Christian was a step in the wrong direction. See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance? What other conclusion is possible?
     
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    yes Jefferson owned slaves as did most of the founders but that does not mean our country wasn’t the most perfect country ever created on earth. Our founders and our popes had an evil Side which is the nature of mankind. Concept it’s too complex for a liberal to grasp. Trying to explain it is like talking to a child .
     
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    You have already learned 10 times that Enlightenment thinkers used Christianity as the foundation for the modern world and the replacement for Roman Colosseum values.Shall we go for 11?
     
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    Evidence to support this claim is ?
     
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    I am no liberal but see no reason why you demonize them. Regardless - it is your unsupported claim and ignoring evidence that conflicts with that claim that smacks of ignorance.

    What other conclusion is possible ?
     
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    The Enlightenment thinkers did not use Christianity as the foundation for the modern world. You have never given any valid support for this claim and you know very little about Classical Liberalism so are in no position to make such a claim to begin with.

    You have still yet to get to 1 - never mind 11 ;) Naked claims don't prove anything and repetition of that claim does not constitute proof of claim.

    This is the 10th time I have explained your logical fallacy to you .... shall we go for 11 ?
     
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    Is it me or are liberals now routinely anti Christian and anti Semitic?
    It's you.
     
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