Is the naive, militarily challenged, foreign policy neophyte, Trump starting a war with Iran?

Of course, because Trump doesn't know what he is doing. He fell in love with Kim, and he rejects American intell, beliving Putin because he sounded sincere.

Do you support Trump on those two issues?

Tell me why Iran would place limpet mines above the waterline.

An intell unit of another country would do that if it didn't want to do serious harm to the ships. Funny how no one has been hurt in these attacks and there has been no serious damage. Are they phony attacks?

 

Because there is less armor above the water line.

Again. Do you not believe the US Navy when they said it was Iran who attacked the ships?

 

You should read what you send. I said, "it reflects Trump's lack of knowledge of military matters."

You said:

Of course, he listens to the military because he doesn't know a damn thing about the military. In a situation like Iran, he has to listen to the military.

Trump just lost his SecDef. Shanahan quit today, effective immediately.

 

These are oil tankers, not warships. The limpet mine is designed to sink ships, including warships.

 

Everyone was sure that Trump was wanting and going to start a war with NK and because of that war China would be drawn in and we'd be in a WWIII situation. That never happened. Now Trump is supposedly wanting war with Iran and is trying to start one. How much do these people want to bet whether a war starts or not?

 

Or set them on fire, which they did.

And they recommended sending troops to the area.

 

Yes. Not because he is Trump.
IMO Kim is a monster, but you get no where in negotitaions by starting off calling the other side a monster.

My opinion on Russia changed when they withdrew their forces East long ago. The US and NATO reponded by moving their bases East. They dumped their hammer and sickel flags and now teach Christianity in their public schools. There are US/NATO tanks on Russian borders and NO Russian tanks on US borders. Facts matter to me.

I have no idea who placed the mines. Mines above the water line assure the contents spill out and a second incendiary mine can set the leaked contents on fire, according to a navy seal.

Also, I understand that the contents of the tankers were naptha and methanol, not oil.

 

That wasn't a strategy. That was Trump in full flight, he backed off the rhetoric and did not prevent NK from producing nuclear weapons.
A partial victory. In Iran, he backed out of a deal that was in force and did not need the threatening rhetoric that he is using now and
which may cause a misjudgment. In his jealous efforts to kill all things Obama, he made a mistake and now is backing off.

 

Easy...here is my full comment:

and what you replied to was:

Heh. So let's try this again: What are the odds of us going to war with Iran in the next two months?

I'm thinking it may be two months before you quit stalling!

 

The trick is getting them to respond to such a question!

 

OK so he's a bumbling Mr Magoo in your version. So what do you think the odds are that Mr Magoo avoids a war with Iran?

 

NK detonated their first nuclear bomb while Bush was president.

 

Trump needs experts to give him advice that he needs to hear instead of talking to people who tell him what he wants to hear..
Trump doesn't know what he doesn't know. He said that he "knows more than the generals" and makes decisions based on his "gut".
Ronald Reagan knew what he didn't know and brought in excellent advisors into his cabinet (whether they voted for him or not).
Trump takes advice from nobody.

 

So? If Trump was in office at that time, NK would have detonated its first nuclear weapon.

 

?????????

 

Why, you don't think that NK would have detonated a nuclear weapon then?

 

The original comment was something to the effect that Trump did not stop NK from developing a nuclear weapon. He was not president then.

 

OH. I meant to say that they continued their nuclear development program.

 

Seems a common theme with Presidents. Obama also claimed to be able to do the jobs of those under him better than they could. But that's not the issue. Nor are "experts" the issue. The experts have been in charge for decades if not longer, and here we are. So what are the odds that Trump goes to war with Iran?

I say slim to none.

 

Obama had advisors and he used their advice or at least listened to other views. Trump is not interested in any other viewpoint.
A very dangerous way to make decisions. I hope you are right.

 

I'm curious where you got this idea that Trump has no advisers and doesn't listen to any other views. Where did you get that from?

 

I fear it is the opposite. Trump listens to advisors who talked him into changing his mind on many issues. The warmonger twins Pompeo and Bolton are examples.

 

Trump has fired advisors that gave him advice that he didn't want to hear. He has said that he knows "more than the generals",
that he makes decisions based on his "gut", "knows more about technology than anybody", and brings in mediocrity, as long as they voted for him. OH, and he did not vet most of them who fortunately are no longer there and replaced them with more mediocrity.
He needs the most knowledgeable people he can get, whether they voted for him or not. Just look at that inner circle of losers who are going to jail.

 

Most of Trump's inner circle are not knowledgeable, and do we need 2 warmongers? Trump is warlike.

 

I guess I was asking for you to back up your opinion, not expound on the same thing. My fault, I didn't make myself clear.