Ha ha If you don’t know some science, you’ll never know when you’re being fooled. There are dozens of examples in your daily life.
And maybe the earth is flat. Rather then guess what it is, or make something up, just saying, “I don’t know” , is always the best answer.
We only know what happens descriptivly what happens when we approach infinity in various ways. We used to think one could get infinity hot or infinitely cold or more correctly, we didn’t know. We now know through physics and math they have limits. The same can be said for space.
Ha ha You need more education. Why don’t you pull out a dictionary that defines “mathematics” and tell us anything in the definition that makes it different from other languages. Clearly YOU do not understand mathematics. Mathmatics like any language even has its own dictionary. Like Chinese, each symbol can be translated into a word(s) and groups of symbols are combined into math sentences for practical use in problem solving. There is no concept in mathematics that cannot be liken to languages in general. aamof, it is a universal language here on earth among developed nations that requires minimal translations. Science also feels it can be used to communicate with other “intelligent life” needing only a “primer” or code breaker to promote translation. Yes, it’s a language.
Ever heard of Trig....maybe even algebra? Not to mention Physics equations. I suppose one advanced mathematician corresponding to another would be using symbols and terminology that could be considered a separate language if you ignored the one they are speaking in.
I would call this a discussion of “our” universe as we know it. There could be others. Just the basic concept that math has a dictionary helps define math as a language. Equations in Mathmatics are equivalent to sentences in language. Btw, physics “equations” are not separate from regular math. It’s the symbols used that differentiate one science from another including the science of economics ( I would argue is a science) . Trig rules, Algebra rules, are each used in Physics. You’ll still have variables, sentences called equations and the same properties in dealing with a trig equation used in physics as a trig equation used in biology or economics to represent equations in problem solving. There is no science you could name that uses math that is not a derivation of a language.
Like a cylinder. If Ω = 1 might 'appear flat, but I doubt the universe is flat' If Ω > 1, seems to suggest the universe is inside the globe, and not a an outer layer that might appear flat if you're in it, but you'd still come back to your starting point like a globe if you traversed it looking for an edge heading in one direction out of the 3 dimensions we have..
Support Ω = 1, the universe is flat. it is the best model for Earth also. Just look. See! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How about, flat doesn't matter. Nor other geometric forms because the universe is that big emptiness that material existence shares with energy and other stuff. Consideration of the universe being otherwise is just that "stuff" interfering with observations. Moi Heaven is NOT Mathematics and Mathematics is NOT Heaven aka "Show Me".
Such things are beyond "our" understanding. Y'gotta believe. Have faith. Words by nature have limitations. How to express the unfathomable? Habla Gnoticism?
Having faith is ascribing to something that is more then likely false. By definition, faith is the absence of proof. Believing in any thing without proof is a sure fire way to disaster. Just saying, we( or I ) don’t know is always the best answer for the unknown.
Ah yes...The Ol' "Onna couta I say so and No one knows but I do so that's the truth so believe me 'cause I know God and you don't" bit.
The universe does not have a "shape" in the way that we understand it. A shape implies that an area or volume is enclosed, creating an inner and outer space. Since we think of the universe as the realm of space-time that comprises everything, including "empty" space, there is no reference to determine where the universe's "edges" are. If you think about it though, here is why. The "edges" of the universe are expanding away from every single point inside the universe, which means that the "edges" are just as far away from every single point as any other. This goes against intuition, but everything we have observed so far indicates that is the case. When the big bang happened, it was not as if there was already space and time where a point of energy suddenly exploded. The big bang happened everywhere, creating space and time, which has some profound implications. The closest thing we can think of which this phenomenon resembles is a sphere, but even a sphere does not adequately represent what is happening. I don't understand it the best, but my astronomy class has taught me this.
One thing we know about the observable universe we have to work with is, it’s all made of the same stuff as what is on earth and in our system. So the answers are possible at some point. Keep looking.
Here is the biggest difference between science and religion. If you take away all of our knowledge and wipe our minds, and take away all of our technology, religion will never return in the same form (unless there is a God and Jesus reappears.) However, science will return in pretty much the same way that it exists now, because humans are driven to discover the nature of their existence. Yes, there will be some form of religion undoubtedly, but it is highly unlikely that any such religion would resemble anything that we have right now. There is nothing to discover in religion, because it is all passed down from anecdotal accounts. Nothing can be tested or experimented with. However in a brand new world, the same scientific discoveries can be made, and the same conclusions can be found. The speed of light is constant. The effect of gravity is constant. The laws of motion are constant, and the laws of energy are constant. Nothing is constant about religion, it is only what people agree that it should be--and people tend to do a pretty terrible job at it, which is why there are thousands of different kinds of religions, and only one kind of science.
None. A word creates limits by its' definition as our physical form creates limits to perception & comprehension. Start a thread Religion Forum and link me please.
Well said. There is an attack on science as if it seeks to replace or kill religion. People are increasingly feeling "threatened" by science, yet ironically they have no qualms about using the technology that science has produced (in this case, computers) to argue their points.
Please do not paraphrase for cheap shots. I never said or indicated, "I know . . . " Start a thread in Religion and link me
