Is there a constitutional right to food? Mainers to decide

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  1. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Then I'll rephrase, they won't.
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Ah, the raw milk enthusiasts,

    Yes. let's return to Typhoid. What the hell, protect our FRRREEDOMMM to die from diseases conquered 100 years gone.

    What is the MATTER with some people?
     
  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Do you know why do you care?

    For you is this about discussing things or about being right?
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    What?
     
  5. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Both.
     
  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well I haven't seen any evidence of discussion but if you just want to prove you're right that's called a confirmation bias, and there's no point in any further discussion with you thanks for being honest though.
     
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    Exactly. No one has a 'right' to the fruit of the labour of others, unless via exchange of currency or their own labour.
     
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    Our pal is fun to poke at, though.
     
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    Raw milk is horrifying.
     
  10. Cybred

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    What does this have to do with you not proving people won't work.
     
  11. Polydectes

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    For a little bit. Gets boring fast. Have fun poking I am finished.

    I see no value in discussing with such bigoted people.
     
  12. Polydectes

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    Are you talking about like actual milk from a cow or is this some sort of euphemism.
     
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    So you don't know about long term unemployment? Or generational unemployment?

    Do you need to play these semantic games to defend ALL of your beliefs? You may want to ask yourself why your position is so unsupportable, that you need to do this.
     
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    LOLs, Poly.

    But no, I mean milk straight from the cow. It's dodgy as hell :)
     
  15. Cybred

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    If someone is not working that does not mean that they won't.
     
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    Not sure our friend is bigoted, so much as entirely unprepared to have his 'Progressive' type ideology challenged by people who've thought about this a lot more than he apparently has. It's also possible he's one of these peeps who only ever mixes with fellow travellers, and so isn't even aware that the kids have moved on from Wokism and it's partner in crime - Fake Socialism.
     
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    Fair enough I'm lactose intolerant so none for me anyway.
     
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    And it doesn't mean they WILL.

    There are plenty of people who are very happy to have others fund them .. and carry zero guilt about it. Sometimes even those who consider themselves 'socialists' will happily live off the labour of others - can you imagine that? After all, socialism is the LEAST tolerant of free lunches, because free lunches are entirely contrary to the mutual obligation central to collectivism.
     
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    Bigotry is obstinate or unreasonable adherence to a belief.

    When you coming to a forum thinking you're right about everything I can think of nothing that better fits the definition of bigotry.

    People don't really seem to want to ideology challenged. It seems rather odd to place it on the butcher block that is a political forum but here we are.
     
  20. Cybred

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    You and crank also fit that definition.
     
  21. Polydectes

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    This isn't socialism though the flattering name would be capitalistic symbiosis, they need capitalism to make the money that they use the problem is symbiosis says a benefit to both organisms this is a benefit to one and a detriment to the other so it's capitalistic parasitism.

    Once all that capitalism goes away those people mooching off of the fat of the land we'll find out how Lena gets. Socialism and famine kind of go hand in hand.
     
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    Just like capitalism.
     
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    I think of them as raging capitalists. They're the most dependent on the fat of the land, and so they make themselves handmaidens to capitalism very willingly.

    Even my kind of socialism (Nearing model small holder collective) would explode their heads within a week, and it's vastly less onerous than State Socialism.
     
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    Capitalism feeds you, guy.
     
  25. Cybred

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    So people never go hungry under capitalism?
     
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