Is this REALLY the beginning of the end for women's sports?

Pound for pound men are much faster and stronger than women. Look at any olympic event that has a weight class. Women don't have the explosive power that men have. This is why female athletes take Testosterone. The MALE hormone.

 

No way this is a serious post...

 

Any person that believes a woman could compete with men at the highest levels is utterly insane. Men have testosterone, women do not. Even with anabolics it is physically impossible. It's that simple.

 

exclusion is the game. I get it.

 

Ugh don't get me started on words. Like have you ever realized we slap labels on everything and call those labels 'words'?

 

point! a brilliant riposte.

 

No. You don't get it. Fairness is the name of the game. Those trans boys should be ashamed of themselves.

 

Ashamed of themselves? Nah, they don't need to you and yours carry around enough shame to dump on them on demand.

Really stinking up the neighborhood with the stuff.

 

definition please. Is a trans man by your definition a female who believes herself to be male? If yes, then if rules are upheld, they will never make the final cut because actual males will outperform the female so there is no worry

It's having males compete against females that is the issue

 

A trans man is a man who was assigned female at birth yes.

As for your second claim? That's not a good way to look at any of this. If you actually think that nationally is what matters than you are wrong on that account alone, let alone saying that a trans male athlete would never get to the point of competing on a national level. National sports don't matter so much as the smaller divisions. You have to look at the smaller level. Different sports select on different traits. Basketball selects on being tall. Running selects on being short. It goes without saying that you can imagine a trans person having the right body for the right sport. This is how you have to view this, be imaginative. If your imagination is lacking:

"
“The problem with trans men is that they’ve largely been invisible in the media,” Nick Adams, Director of Transgender Representation for GLAAD, says in the Netflix documentary Disclosure. “Certainly being invisible is a privilege compared to the type of transphobia that has been written into trans women characters. But I work with a lot of trans boys, and when they look to the screen to see themselves reflected back, they see almost nothing.”

For many trans boys, especially those who live in more isolated areas, this invisibility has real impacts. Visibility allows people to see pathways for themselves, to believe that their goals and aspirations are possible. It’s why athletes like Schuyler Bailar, the first openly transgender Division I NCAA swimmer, and Chris Mosier, the first openly trans athlete to qualify for Team USA and who competed in the Olympic Trials in January 2020, are so important."

https://www.insidehook.com/article/sports/trans-athletes-win-boys-sports

 

I don't harbor any shame. I don't take advantage girls.

 

I think that I'm following you but you get confusing because I never know if you are talking about someone who is male at birth or female at birth. Sexes are not assigned to anyone, it's how you are born

To be honest, regardless of size, a female isn't going to be able to compete against a male. Jockeys on the other hand don't need to gt caught up in this because small is better.

The problem is when males are allowed to compete against females. Males are built differently regardless of what you might have surgically removed.What we are basically saying to female athletes is to heck with your hard work and sacrifices, we're going to let those who are born physically stronger, compete against you, and we will call them females.

I understand the whole "woke" movement but allowing males to compete against girls is just wrong and goes too far. Girls are going to get injured in sports like basketball and soccer when the males get aggressive

 

There will still be plenty of athletic endeavors for females to compete against other females, unless you think we are suddenly going to turn into a nation overwhelmed by transvestites???

 

Trans people are a tiny tiny minority. That is why it is ridiculous to destroy sports for millions of girls because of their whining. If they want their own exclusive competition then nobody will care. Government needs to get back to treating people equally. Assigning policy for gender is fine as long as it treats genders equally. Government shouldn't simply turn things upside down for people who are dissatisfied with their gender. That isn't equality.

 

Hey guys...I woke up this morning and feel like a woman. Now that I identify as a female, can someone point me in the right direction to sign up for the women's mud wrestling league?

 

Progressives: "We need more women in business management positions."

Progressives: "Men can be women too."

Logical People: "Problem solved."

 

That's expensive, so girls sports only for rich folks?

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Most sports depend on strength and speed -- two traits heavily aided by testosterone.

A trans man will never have the testosterone levels or legacy benefits of someone who was born with high testosterone. So, few trans men will win competitions.

The reverse is true for someone that was born as a male and then competed as a male for years who then starts to compete against those born female. Trans women have already dominated several women's weightlifting competitions. Fallon Fox dominated women's MMA for a while.

It may not be compatible with the "equality" narrative, but those born male have a lot of "privileges" in physical competitions due to testosterone, and even those who then get surgery and take estrogen still have the benefits of high testosterone over the years along with denser bones.

No one born female will ever have the same level of testosterone that many born male will have, particularly those cis-males that train as athletes.

 

I agree in most cases. The only sports in which women have the advantage are ones that focus on flexibility and endurance. For example, women have the advantage for long distance swimming.

 

There's no need to imagine. We already see what transwomen do to women's sports.

And given what we know about testosterone and how most sports prioritize traits that males have the advantage on, the odds of a trans male winning a non-team sport are quite low. Sure, it's theoretically possible, but that doesn't mean much.

 

Maybe flexibility, but not endurance. Look at marathon and triathalon times. It is nothing against women. My mother was a woman, but they are physically the weaker sex.

 

Pretty much. It may become rather advantageous to participate in this ruse in some cases. The best one of them all is "genderfluid". If you fit that category, you can just say you are that but currently are identifying as masculine or feminine, depending on whichever is more practical for the occasion.

 

True, although the triathlon is about traits beyond endurance. Marathons have a more singular focus on endurance, although the fact that men have longer legs on average over women makes it slightly easier for them to cover the distance. It's the same with how this favors men in speed.

 

And? What’s your point? You need to explain why that’s an unfair competitive advantage.

 

I mean, if you don't mind that happening, it's no skin off my back. I would love to watch more transwomen dominate women's sports just to enjoy the ensuing controversy. It would certainly make women's sports more entertaining.