Is this website making America better?

Nice admission to making it personal.
The baby in the oval office is not calling names. As the whiner baby does to everyone not alt right.

 

I pains me (more than I can say) to suggest this - because it's profoundly racist - but the best solution is probably a black conservative president. Or Hispanic conservative. Preferably female.

The lunatics will implode from cognitive dissonance, which will shut them up for 4 years.

Edited to say: of course there will be a few who don't implode, and we'll get to see the racism they pretend they don't practice - in all its glory.

 

LOL - When you have nothing, just make fun of the President and call him names.

Fanning the flames of hatred and division, are we?? lol

 

Now are you trying to organize ***** hat rally?
Maybe the baby in the oval office has one planned.

 

Of course not. I am not a crybaby liberal upset over an election loss.

 

I want an American majority, free nation. That means a capitalist nation of any and all peoples of any and all skin colors. I could do without the anti-Americans of any and all skin colors.

 

LOL. Who but you said so? Hmm.
I never wanted hilary. You trying to make it sound as I did is more tRUMPism.
All of America lost in 2016 election, no matter who was elected. But we did get the biggest baby as prez. In USA history.

Why do you take it so personal?
I bet you railed everyday for 8 yrs when the black skin man was prez.

 

I never called the President a crybaby or made an indication at all I was upset he won the election. You, however, seem agitated.

Biggest baby? Like all those snowflakes marching in pussyhats because they were so upset Hillary lost? lol

 

It would be interesting (I voted for Alan Keyes way back when), but I think that's all you'd get out of it, four or eight more years of peace, and then, *BOOM*. Unless the Republicans actually succeeded in closing the border during those years. So far, the Republican elite have been no more reliable in this regard than the Democrats. Other than Cruz, I don't know how many elected Republicans would actually side with the right in a civil war.

Question is how to get the anti-Americans out.

 

The Board allows people to speak out.

 

Hello, Te. It's sad, discouraging, and exhausting to think that we're still having to deal with "criminals and crazies". I should patent that phrase, since I'm pretty sure I was the one who originally made it up....

We're at a point now where we are so polarized and politically-divided that we can't even really tallk to each other in any way that achieves anything useful at all.

Cut to the chase -- do you think it would do any good to suggest that the place to begin mandatory restriction on gun ownership and use is with certain identified prescription drugs? In other words, if you've been prescribed "Drug X, Y, Z, etc.", then you must (MUST) surrender any weapons and ammunition in your possession. But surrender the weapons to whom? Who would pay for and manage such a 'storage system'?

Should we also include among those who must (MUST) surrender all weapons and ammo those who are currently under psychiatric care or psychological 'counceling'...? That is probably exactly where the focus should be, but then everybody would be raising hell about how psychiatrists and psychologists have been turned into a "Gestapo" for ratting-out their patients -- and the whole effort would go down in flames very quickly. We can identify "criminals"... but it would be much, much harder to identify "crazies" in any way that could survive legal challenges which would multiply astronomically, and very quickly....

We Americans can go on chewing this issue to death in forums like this one, but until we can come up with SOMETHING that makes sense, but until we can compromise on something that is constitutional, logical, and effective, all we are going to GET is MORE 'death'.

Please don't misunderstand me, Te. I'm not going "soft" on legal ownership of firearms -- especially those for self-protection. I don't want to ever be holding a kitchen knife while the criminal or crazy person who tries to kill me is holding a firearm that is forbidden to me.

 

The solution isn't to limit gun ownership, if you don't want to fend off an armed intruder with a knife get an AR-15 and some training.

 

Don't misunderstand me, please. I am the legal owner of legally-obtained firearms, and I have no intention WHATSOEVER of surrendering any of them to anyone! Are we clear on that?

But it is increasingly also clear that we must, somehow, get weapons out of the hands of "criminals and crazies" -- and we may have to take some draconian measures if we are going to achieve that! Those of us who are responsible, sane, self-supporting citizens in good standing MUST be allowed to possess and use our firearms! But, we have a lot of criminals and f*cked-up people on drugs of all kinds out there who threaten the rest of us constantly. We must find a way to discover who they are and disarm them before they have a chance to kill the rest of us! A gigantic challenge indeed!

 

I don't agree, i don't want criminals and crazies to have guns either but no gun laws will prevent that from happening especially if we don't enforce the ones we already have.

I'd rather die by gun violence than live in a country that isn't secure in it's freedom.

 

What we need, Cy, is a sane and rational look at our CURRENT dire situation and ask ourselves if we want it to continue and worsen or are we willing to be adults and address the core issue which is EASY ACCESS to lethal firearms by criminals, crazies, racists, sociopaths, spousal abusers and the deluded.

For starters we need to TRASH the puerile "gun culture" in our nation because it has become synonymous with killing without repercussions.

Speaking as someone who has spent a great deal of time overseas I have never felt "threatened" because I never had a firearm while living abroad. It is perfectly possible to have a safe society WITHOUT firearms.

Other nations uphold the right to own a firearm while weeding out those who will cause harm with them.

What are they doing right and we are doing wrong?

We need to face our REALITY and decide what we want for our FUTURE?

 

The REALITY is that EVERYONE in America is being HELD HOSTAGE by the NRA's gun culture that is LITERALLY killing us!

People overseas have the SAME FREEDOMS that we enjoy WITHOUT the THREAT that criminals and crazies are going to gun them down at church or shopping or watching a movie or having a drink with friends after work.

 

Not true .

 

Please don't put the blame on the NRA, Te. I've been a member of it for over 20 years and I've never seen them promoting the idea of doing anything illegal at all.

That said, I've come to the point where I will stand up and advocate that anyone with any felony record of any kind should be completely prohibited from owning firearms, period. And, if they are caught in possession of one, that that alone will be the basis for a mandatory conviction -- ZERO TOLERANCE -- of five years, in addition to whatever else they may be being sought for.

Even more controversial than that -- I will now also advocate that anyone who is taking ANY of certain prescription drugs that are identified by psychiatrists and psychologists as being a probable cause of homocidal behavior must (MUST) surrender them to the nearest police department or face an automatic mandatory conviction for criminal concealment, again -- ZERO TOLERANCE -- of five years! Moreover, all psychiatrists and psychologists must (MUST) inform police departments of the names of all those who they have prescribed those drugs for!

I know, I know. I'm going to be called a gun-hating, snowflake-Nazi for advocating this, but nothing could be further from the truth! I'm a STAUNCH supporter of the 2nd Amendment, and the NRA, but I'm NOT supportive of any "criminals and crazies" being in possession or ownership of firearms at all!

 

1. The 'left' are neither unhinged nor violent.
2. There is no such thing as a 'liberal destruction' of this country.
3. the' right' does not care if the majority is white or not
4. The 'left' does not care if the majority is brown or not.
5 the 'left' does not want a socialist nation.

Other than those five statements...

 

Kneejerk denialism does not alter REALITY one iota!

 

Fortunately for ALL of us the NRA's political influence is on the wane and they can get back to their original purpose.

I don't have any problem with the rest of your post however what you have not addressed is the EASY ACCESS to firearms by these "criminals and crazies"?

How about mandatory hard time for EVERYONE who ENABLES these "criminals and crazies" to obtain firearms which would INCLUDE homeowners who FAILED to secure their own firearms and thus ENABLED them to be stolen?

How about an AMNESTY for minor criminal offences for any criminal who voluntarily surrenders their firearms to the police? We can discuss where to draw the line but just putting the concept out there in principle as a means to reduce the EASY ACCESS to firearms problem.

How about a REWARD for information leading to the arrest of anyone dealing in firearms without a license?

IOW's how about we ENCOURAGE people to eliminate the problem of EASY ACCESS to firearms while we PUNISH those who are responsible for the causing the problem?

 

This guy?

 

Insane Anti-Trump Protester Goes BESERK on Crowder! | Change My Mind



"The Dayton Daily News reported Monday evening that the gunman who carried out a mass shooting early Sunday morning “definitely leaned to the left” politically and had talked to friends recently about shooting up local bars.
On Sunday evening, Breitbart News reported that Twitter had suspended an account reportedly linked to the shooter. The account had tweeted in support of socialism, in favor of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), against President Donald Trump, and against Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

In a new report, the Dayton Daily News confirms that the shooter, who killed nine people and wounded over two dozen, was left-wing — and that he did not support the Second Amendment[.]"

Leftist Gunman Shoots Republican Congressman in Media-Inspired Terror Attack

Attacker deliberately targeted Republicans

https://www.infowars.com/leftist-gu...-congressman-in-media-inspired-terror-attack/

Attacks on Trump supporters by leftists by month (only up until mid-2017, and there have been many more since):



https://dailycaller.com/2017/06/16/this-list-of-attacks-against-conservatives-is-mind-blowing/

Study: Green New Deal Would Cost Up to $94 Trillion

Sen. Barrasso: 'Green New Deal would bankrupt the nation'

"Democratic 2020 hopefuls have lined up to endorse the Green New Deal.

Sen. Cory Booker (D., N.J.) has said the planet "simply can't sustain" people eating meat, and compared the Green New Deal to landing on the moon and fighting World War II.

Sen. Kamala Harris (D., Calif.) called the Green New Deal "practical," during an interview Sunday, adding "of course we can afford" the plan because climate change is "an existential threat to us."

"It's not about a cost," Harris said. "It's about an investment.""

According to almost everyone on the left, it does.

Republicans really just care about one thing: Making America White Again
https://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2...re-about-one-thing-making-america-white-again

Nancy Pelosi: What Trump Really Wants To Do Is ‘Make America White Again’
https://www.westernjournal.com/nancy-pelosi-trump-really-wants-make-america-white/

White Nationalists And Nativists Want Americans To Pay To Keep America White
https://www.mediamatters.org/white-...-want-americans-pay-keep-america-white/215141

Republicans Want a White Republic. They'll Destroy America to Get It
https://time.com/5628283/trump-tweets-racist-white-america/

Why the GOP is and will continue to be the party of white people
https://newrepublic.com/article/112365/why-republicans-are-party-white-people

Might want to tell the left that.

"Let’s see, what was it that Michael Moore said earlier this week?

“The angry white guy is dying out, and the Census Bureau has already told us that by 2050, white people are going to be the minority, and I’m not sad to say I can’t wait for that day to happen. I hope I live long enough to see it because it will be a better country.” ...

Affinity Magazine wrote, “Actually... Straight White Men Are the Root of Our Problems.” The Root put out an article called “Polite White People are Useless.” A Boston University scholar said “Stephen King’s ‘It’ Is Bad Because It’s Full Of ‘White, Straight, Able-Bodied’ Males.” CNN also blamed ordinary people for being "white supremacists by default." There were people on Twitter hoping Hurricane Harvey would help “cleanse” Texas of white people. Then there was this comment from Munroe Bergdorf, the first transgender model hired by L’Oréal.

"Honestly, I don’t have energy to talk about racial violence of white people any more. Yes ALL white people. Because most of ya’ll don’t even realize or refuse to acknowledge that your existence, privilege and success as a race is built on the backs, blood and death of people of color. Your entire existence is drenched in racism. From micro-aggressions to terrorism, you guys built the blueprint for this sh*t. Come see me when you realize that racism isn’t learned, it’s inherited and consciously or unconsciously passed down through privilege. “Once white people begin to admit that their race is the most violent and oppressive force of nature on Earth … then we can talk."

https://townhall.com/columnists/joh...ve-it-both-ways-with-white-americans-n2376464

"The Left's War on White America

By Lloyd Marcus

Folks, I pray that what I am about to say will help open your eyes to the evil coming from the Left in our country (the Democratic Party, Hollywood, and the mainstream media). When you start teaching innocent little children to feel guilty for being born white, it can only be described as a war on white America.

I am black and very pleased with who God made me to be. Imagine the Left's reaction to a white person saying they are grateful for God's choice for their life. According to the Left, everyone (gays and minorities) are encouraged to be proud of who they are except white people. ...

A WMD of the Left's assault is the hate and violence generating lie that white men, particularly police, routinely murder young black males. When you teach black youths that criticizing the president is racist, that Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown were murdered by whites, that black flash mob attacks, the knockout game, polar bearing hunting, and assassinations of police are to be expected. ...

Lying to the American people comes easy to the left. The Left considers the sabotage of national race relations acceptable collateral damage to recruit minority voters.

Folks, we are engaged in a battle of good vs evil. It is my prayer that God gives you the grace, strength, wisdom and courage to push back against the Left's evil. No one in our great nation should be bullied, made to be ashamed of their race. The Left's war on white America must not be tolerated."

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/the_lefts_war_on_white_america.html

The left-wing Washington Post disagrees with you.

The Democrats have become socialists

"This embrace of an unabashedly socialist position by the Democrats delights nobody more than the original socialists, the Democratic Socialists of America. David Duhalde, the group's deputy director, was one of the first in line for the event, carrying a Medicare-for-All sign.

"Socialism has been most successful in this country when its ideas have been adopted by other parties," he said, listing the enactment of labor laws, Social Security and Medicare. But "this is a high water mark," he said."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...b88d88-98cb-11e7-82e4-f1076f6d6152_story.html

"Candidates for the 2020 Democratic nomination are even more liberal than you might think. On Thursday, the American Conservative Union (ACU), the group behind the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), released its ratings from the 2017-2018 Congress. Eleven of the Democrats running for president in 2020 appeared in the report, and here is how they scored, from most liberal to most conservative.

PJ Media has included one Democrat who is considering a presidential run. Seven of the twelve ranked more liberal than an outright socialist."

https://pjmedia.com/trending/which-2020-democrat-is-the-most-conservative/

Nearly every Democratic candidate for president has endorsed the socialistic and far-left Green New Deal.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-e...andidates-are-saying-about-the-green-new-deal

So yes, all those five statements. The only questionable one is #3, as there are no reliable reports of Republicans wanting to keep America white, despite the repeated claims of the left. I'm tempted to agree if only because keeping America white is the only way to keep it from turning into Mexico or Brazil or some other socialistic third world shithole. I live in a third world shithole neighborhood now and I hate it. This is not America.

 

I think this website and others like it are making America better by keeping it from getting worse faster. In two ways:
-it provides an important medium for the left and the right to get a more honest view of eachother outside their respective propaganda machines (if only for those few willing to listen)
- it provides an outlet for the innevitable emotional response to the political division

 

And there it is. The surrender. You implicitly say that freedom only occurs where the general population can be armed, and in fact are.. World experience tells the opposite tale. The USA experience belies your proposition. In the USA, you are caged by a fear of someone else there having a gun. That is nowhere near freedom. It is imprisonment.