Is today's violent black culture karma for slavery ?

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  1. PatrickT

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    You have helped them into perpetual poverty. Free non-performing schools saddled with unions who take priority over students. Fervid hatred for any proposal that might allow poor black kids to escape the non-performing schools such as vouchers. As I recall, the racist Attorney General sued Louisiana to stop them from giving vouches to poor students.

    But, let's move on. It isn't all about schools. The liberals have put in a system to "help" blacks by telling young women that the government will support them better than the man will if they'll dump him. So, the women become single-mothers, locked into perpetual poverty, and the children grow up without a father in the home. Isn't that a wonderful way to "help" keep blacks on the bottom tier.

    Then, regulations and taxes drive what few jobs there might be out of the cities where the poor blacks can reach them and a dependence on the Department of Welfare keeps them living in subsidized housing in the ghetto. Great "help" there, Manifest Destiny.

    Oh, it's a small point because he was a liberal but Affirmative Action started with President Nixon and "set asides"

    What is the best example of liberal helping? Barack Obama. A product of Affirmative Action all the way to the White House. Can't read the word corpsman off his teleprompter. He thinks that since he's been president the racial division in the country has healed somewhat.

    Way to go, Manifest Destiny. Destroying the children. The families are already destroyed. Communities are being destroyed. But, they vote for Democrats and that was your only goal. Leftists hate all Americans regardless of their race. I wish someone would "help" you, Manifest Destiny, like you and yours want to help the blacks to permanent poverty.
     
  2. X-ray Spex

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    The other thing about this slavery stuff: Our great-grandfather was too young to serve in the Civil War, but three of his older brothers were not. They had to endure truly horrible conditions, and one was killed. "War is Hell," you know. All to stop slavery. To free the slaves. My great-great-grandparents lost a son to the effort. Who owes reparations to whom here?
     
  3. Nat Turner

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    You gotta be kidding. You steal the neighbours car, total it into a telephone pole and then expect thanks because you call the tow truck? Black folks should thank you for what exactly? Setting them free after you'd beaten, murdered, raped and enslaved them for 250 years? And another 100 years of Jim Crow lynchings? Maybe the rapist should expect thanks for letting the victim go free afterwards. Expecting thanks from the victims for living up to your own loudly professed Christian principles and Constitution? This takes the whole stormfront thing to a new level. Incredible.
     
  4. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably need to look at early 1800's immigration and how the Union Army was populated. Odds are X-ray Spex has a point as it relates to his great grandfather or his families losses.

    File this under the no good deed goes unpunished category.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  5. Pred

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    Imagine hypothetically if there was no US slavery and the vast majors of black people were left in Africa. Assuming Africa as a continent wouldn't be much different than it is now, would black people as a race be better off with that scenario? The major difference would be that there would be a whole lot less back people in the US, much like Europe.

    And Remember the US wasn't the only country with slavery. It was everywhere.
     
  6. Jack Links

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    Laughing so hard I'm crying and my stomach hurts.
    How do you explain the spear chuckers in africa? They still live in mud huts. Were it not for whites, they'd have no technology at all.
     
  7. CCitizen

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    Not karma, but direct result of the slavery's and racism's destruction of African American identity.
     
  8. ManifestDestiny

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    Do all of you Reich Wingers really want to keep pretending people like this arent racist? If so, you are fighting a losing battle.
     
  9. X-ray Spex

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    'We' didn't enslave anybody. We had nothing to do with it except ending it. Other side of my family came from Sweden in the 1870's.

    You must be the racist, assuming all white people are the same. Racist.
     
  10. CCitizen

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    I agree 100% -- most people are capable of both extreme evil and great good.
     
  11. Stuart Wolfe

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    Six years ago, someone asked Soulja Boy which historical figure he most hated. That's when he came up with a truly unique response:

    Sometime around then - I don't remember how - it came up in class that the life expectancy in some African countries was in the forties or thereabouts as a combination of both poverty and AIDS, which caused several of the black students to say that they were better off here.

    So, I wouldn't lay all of that on racism as I've heard that very same attitude from blacks.
     
  12. CCitizen

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    Western Europeans did not have a history of slavery/serfdom similar to African or East European experience.
     
  13. Nat Turner

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    A couple of posters here have said Af=Ams are better off because of slavers bringing them to the Sacred Heartland. That isn't generalization? That somehow slavery is excused because eventually slaves were freed? I am the racist because I'm not giving blessed thanks to whom exactly? and for what exactly? To paraphrase Chris Rock ' should Tina Turner thank Ike because he stopped punching her in the face'? Read a few of the above posts from your fellow master race patriots. Generalizations are the rule on the PoFo regarding black folks. My ancestors fought in every war since*, and including, the Revolution and the whole time we were oppressed for our trouble. If you're looking for some sort of 'thank ya, massah' gratitude - keep lookin', Cliven.


    * We even threw in that little slave revolt by my namesake ancestor to let y'all know we were keeping our martial spirits at the ready. har!
     
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    Is today's violent black culture karma for slavery ?

    No !
    Today's violent black culture is only representative of
    why black people occupied the lowest strata of societies
    throughout history and civilizations.



    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


     
  15. CCitizen

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    Everyone who is abused has a much higher chance of occupying lower strata.

    I do not believe in heredity argument at all -- 99% of behavior is determined by environment.
     
  16. X-ray Spex

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    When did this writer excuse slavery? And we read your confessions, decades ago, we recall them somewhat well. Written by a white guy we seem to recall. We also seem to recall that the whole affair was pretty degrading and dehumanizing.

    You still want a race war? Not everybody does. That too has not changed.
     
  17. TheImmortal

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    So if it's their environment and the culture of oppression they've had to deal with, we would expect that the rates of violent crime would not be over represented in other countries.

    So I challenege you to show me ANY country on earth where blacks are not overrepresented in regards to violent crime. Just show me one.
     
  18. ManifestDestiny

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    So if its not their environment and culture but they are still like that all around the world, what is it? You tell me

    - - - Updated - - -

    Why am I not surprised Reich Wingers are so quick to defend slavery?
     
  19. Nat Turner

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    Huh? Race war? You've been hangin' out at stormfront too much. As far as my ancestor - don't rape, murder and enslave people and you won't have to worry about them objecting to it and killing you and yours. Degrading and dehumanizing? I assume you are talking about slavery. What do you think they should've done - got up a petition? HAR!
     
  20. Stuart Wolfe

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    Are black kids and Soulja Boy conservatives? Now that's news to me!
     
  21. Nat Turner

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    How is saying that one is better off here (USA) than in a 3rd world African country defending slavery?

    This should be interesting.......................
     
  22. Pred

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    Don't think anyone is defending slavery exactly. Just saying without it, there would be a lot less black people in the states obviously, since the vast majority would've stayed in Africa and....how's life over there? Not too great. Poverty here is still 100X better than all the disease, executions and the modern day slavery going on over there with teens being forced into gangs which make ours look almost tame. Black people there are basically killing each other in not too different a way black people in the US are....mostly all related to poverty in one form or another, but far less intervention from anyone. So who's fault is it, since white people aren't forming up all these tribes and gangs or leading them. Are white people the cause of ALL of blacks suffering in every country and continent on earth?

    Is it that simple? White people are causing all the problems?
     
  23. Stuart Wolfe

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    You're gonna haveta ask ManifestDestiny how that works. About the only way you CAN defend it is the Soulja route, where you say hey, if it weren't for my ancestors being sold into slavery, many of them dying on the way, rampant mistreatment and rapes, being treated like property, massive suffering, no education, lynching, and segregation, I wouldn't be making bank now!

    Yeah, Soulja was pretty idiotic with that comment and got justly criticized for it too - I can imagine Dave Chappelle doing a skit where Soulja Boy is in chains in a slave boat gushing about how wonderful it is to be there. But at the same time, pretty much all my black students said that despite the problems they would run into in the here and now by being black, they would rather be here than there.
     
  24. Coolia

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    Regardless of how they got here, there are plenty who immigrated here of their own accord and were never slaves. Obama's father was one of them.

    Just because someone is black doesn't mean their ancestors were slaves. And even if they were, they should still be glad they're in America now and not Africa.
     
  25. Ronstar

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    no, its karma for slavery & segregation and givign millions of industrial revolution jobs to white immigrants and not for former slaves, for ending Reconstruction, for red-lining the housing market, etc etc..
     

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