Is wokeness the remedy to fascism?

Recognizing the insanity of wokeness isnt right wing propaganda, it is a grasp upon reality. And the liberals fail to distinguish themselves from the woke because they whole heartedly embrace the ideology.

 

“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” Jesse Jackson

 

False. Wokeness is illiberal, not liberal.

 

It's painful to him because he knows it's racist and he falls prey to it. If only the woke were so self aware when catching themselves equating white to racist.

 

I would note that it may not be productive to get into a pissing war with the Right on this matter. There are more important concerns to occupy liberals/progressives, and they've been trucking along despite having some 'fringe' elements. In politics it just comes with the territory because people easily get caught up in the glamour of the 'movement' and forget the boring work necessary to implement meaningful changes. This may result in some members becoming so heavenly minded they're no earthly good, to the point that they forget the importance of boundaries, discernment, reason, and logic.

Besides, the Right thrives by sucking progressives into petty verbal wars over superficial irrelevancies, which is what they excel at and which is their only weapon/defense. Sure, the crazies on the Right are endless in numbers & everywhere, and easy targets for the Left to attack. But the Right never bothers protecting its 'image' by distancing itself from the crazies because the crazies represent the bulk of its entire base. It'd be suicide to reject them. Of course recently they've had to begin distancing themselves from the more insane right-wing factions & individuals out of political expediency.

I feel it'd be more productive for liberals/progressives to simply keep doing what they've been doing and just quietly accept the fact that its political rivals will always find something to bitch about. So let them. Liberals/progressives will be known by their works, not their words, and we've seen the proof of this in the midterms & in Biden winning the admiration of even the likes of hard-line right-winger Newt Gingrich. And followers of the Right will themselves begin to slowly but surely 'awaken' to the fact that the Right has nothing to offer but empty rhetoric & meaningless promises.

My advice to liberals/progressives:

Walk quietly and carry a big stick. That stick is Truth & compassion for all.

 

Liberals need to stand up to the illiberal left not just to protect the image of the left and keep centrists seeing the left as sane, but also because illiberal is the opposite of liberal. When the illiberal left forces through illiberal policy such as race based programs or censorship, they are doing harm to society and liberals shouldn't accept that merely because the illiberal claim to be "woke".

 

"Liberal" in the US today is very illiberal, in contrast to classical liberalism with the term "classical" used in the US to distinguish it from typical liberalism in the US

 

If you can provide a quote, we will know you can be taken seriously. If you can't, then we don't waste our time.

 

I believe the best way to stand up to what you call the 'illiberal left' is to simply deny them political power----the same way they stand up to the MAGA crazies----through concerted, meaningful policy making. There's no need to protect the Left's image. Their works will take care of that, which is how they forged the image they already have.

 

But we are not denying them political power. We are bowing to their influence. And that happens because we fail to call them out and distinguish ourselves from them.

 

Nah. the rest of us familiar with the thesis of the 1619 projects will watch as you remain clueless

 

?????? Well, Ive seen the last 7 years tactics against MAGA consisting of fabrication of false claims, riots in the streets and censorship. What "policy" are you referring to?

 

Nah, its because you are such a tiny minority on the left.

 

Whokeness is "You will think what we demand you to think and say what we demand you to say". We are being ruled by the loud minority.

 

I love the idea of a level playing field. But I think we likely disagree on the fact that there is not a level playing field in many industries and sectors of our society.

 

There is not a level playing field. Not even close. Some are born into great privilege. And some of those are not white or male.

 

That's what I thought. Now we know not to expect serious arguments from you.

Thanks for playing....

 

That would be a level playing field with un level players.

 

Cute. You deleted the argument from my post you partially quoted.

 

And bought refs.

 

While Trump wasted his administration playing golf, holding rallies, tweeting, looking for dirt on Biden, enriching himself & his family, bowing to Putin & other dictators, and trying to secure a permanent seat in the Oval Office as dictator of America, Biden took charge to clean up the scorched earth left behind by Trump, and do what a President should do.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...restimating-president.606144/#post-1073887717

 

Only to a minor degree perhaps.

I don't see the irrational wokers as being a major issue in policy making. Yes, they're loud & overbearing and perhaps immature, but there's a difference between how the Right hypes up the 'dangers' of these wokers vs the level of power they actually exert in terms of policy making. Be careful not to fall for the Right's hyperbole.

The following is proof that meaningful liberal policy making ultimately supersedes irrational ideologues.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...restimating-president.606144/#post-1073887717

 

Not sure how any of that stands up to the "MAGA crazies"

 

You asked, "What "policy" are you referring to?"

 

Yes, the policy you were referring to. that is "the best way to stand up to what you call the 'illiberal left' is to simply deny them political power......through concerted, meaningful policy making".