ISIS wife from Alabama will not be admitted to the US, Pompeo says

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  1. BaghdadBob

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    Perhaps it's like a bartender that is held responsible for serving the drunk driver, or an employer held responsible for the actions of an employee. It's called vicarious liability.
     
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    Uh. I don't see ISIS on that list.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks Mac.

    So was he just trying to pass misinformation to support his arguement, or did he really not believe ISIS was a terror organization? Your guess?
     
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    Does anyone see the irony here? Trump tells Europe to repatriate their ISIS fighters at the same time the US is rejecting it's.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the mother is a US citizen, so is the child.
     
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    If they are American citizens, they have the right to go home. If they so choose. What I want has nothing to do with it. That is their right as Americans.
     
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    ^^^ This.
     
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    Sounds very similar to the activities Trump's associates engaged in. Revisit the admitted crimes of Michael Flynn, for example.
     
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    Transfer upon her as much red tape and as much legal expense as possible. Consider a CIA approved sniper.
     
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    I dont know

    There is a lot of misinformation in the media
     
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    Yes

    All the isis scum should be sent to Devils Island
     
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    Yes

    Make her nump through burning hoops

    But she may not be a citizen

    In which case never let her return
     
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    Yet FBI agents didn't even think Flynn lied to them, it was entrapment.
     
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    And others thought hillary should be indicted
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the US Constitution:
    When you travel half way across the world to have sex with Islamic terrorists of your own free will, you are giving aid and comfort to America's enemies. When you are a social media cheerleader of terrorism, you are giving and comfort to America's enemies.

    If she is an American, she has committed treason. It is an open and shut case. Try her in absentia, convict her and impose the death penalty. Let her know that if she comes back, she is going to death row. She can have her life and be with Muslim people who share her culture and values or she can come back and be executed.
     
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    Hmmm a blog post making the claim that she was never a citizen, however it does have links, so enjoy!

    I. Is Muthana an American Citizen?

    This, of course, is the big question. The government apparently does not dispute that Muthana was born in the United States. Instead, the argument against her citizenship appears to be that her father was a Yemeni diplomat posted to the United Nations, and that children of officially accredited foreign diplomats born in the United States are not entitled to birthright citizenship under the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

    As a matter of law, that claim is correct. The key here is a question of fact: Was Muthana’s father in fact a Yemeni diplomat at the time of her birth. Rukmini Callimachi has reported, for example, that her father’s U.N. posting terminated one month prior to Muthana’s birth. There’s a little gray area here; in order to decide whether individuals are entitled to diplomatic immunity, Article 39 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations recognizes immunity for a “reasonable period” of time between the end of an assignment and the diplomat’s departure from the country. But that wouldn’t necessarily apply if, as has also been reported, Muthana’s father stayed in the United States and applied for permanent immigration status.

    Moreover, Callimachi also reports that, when Muthana previously applied for (and received) a US passport, “her father was asked to produce proof that he had been discharged from his diplomatic post.” Thus, not only does it appear that she was entitled to citizenship at the time of her birth, but that the State Department itself so concluded as recently as 2014. To be sure, the State Department’s prior determination is not necessarily conclusive. But it is deeply suggestive of the conclusion that Muthana’s father was, as a matter of law, no longer entitled to diplomatic immunity at the time of her birth, and so her birth on U.S. soil entitled her to birthright citizenship. At the very least, it’s a matter of some dispute, and not resolved simply by the Secretary of State’s ipse dixit.
     
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    Welcome her back, then try her for treason.

    That would be funny.
     
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    Actually it was the Obama Administration that revoked her passport.

    Andrew McCarthy has a good suggestion as to how to solve the whole mess — have the Department of Justice indict her now, and see just how keen the family is to press the matter:
     
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    Lol. Do you really believe that?
     
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    Of course. It's hard historical fact.

    The Timeline of the ISIS Bride.

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    Hassan Shibly, Jihadi Attorney for ISIS Sex Worker Hoda Muthana.

    The ISIS bride, Hoda Muthana left her home in Alabama in 2014 to join the terrorist "caliphate" of ISIS in Syria, "married" 3 different ISIS terrorists and landed with her 18-month-old son at a Kurdish-run refugee camp in northern Syria after Trump destroyed the caliphate. Now she wants to be invited to return to the US, Trump says, NO!

    The ISIS Bride's father, Ahmed Ali Muthana, a naturalized U.S. citizen, is now suing Trump to have the ISIS Bride and her son "declared to be U.S. citizens and returned to the United States," which, according to the complaint, is what she wants, even if that could mean facing criminal prosecution.

    The ISIS Bride's citizenship turns on the timeline of her father's diplomatic status at Yemen's Mission to the United Nations in New York, where he served as a Yemeni diplomat in the early 1990s, before becoming a naturalized U.S. citizen. The ISIS Bride was born in New Jersey, in October 1994. The U.S. does not consider children born to foreign diplomats in the U.S. as entitled to American citizenship. The ISIS Bride's father claims he conveniently lost his diplomatic status shortly before she was born, ergo she's a citizen, Obama's State Department said in a letter dated Jan. 15, 2016, more than a year after she'd gone to join ISIS in Syria that U.S. authorities were not officially notified of the termination of her father's diplomatic status until February 1995, four months after the ISIS Bride was born, ergo she was not born a U.S. citizen, has never been one, and should never have been issued a U.S. passport.

    https://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/timeline-of-the-isis-bride/
     
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    “Alabama wife and mother”.........gosh durn.....she’s just Emmylou Harris in a burka........bring her home!
     
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    It probably wouldn't be for treason, but that's exactly what should happen here...

    It would be an ideal public case to make to anybody else considering this terrible life choice that it was a huge mistake.

    She does time, probably less than Lindh's 20 years.

    It's all good except for her kid... that's a much tougher call... he has no legal rights to citizenship..
     
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    Actually Treason fits well if she is a US citizen, which looks doubtful. She was born here, but to a foreign diplomat who enjoyed diplomatic immunity as a representative of a foreign state of Yemen.
     
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    Well it effing well shouldn't be then! Traitors are enemies of their countries and should be treated as such.
     

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