Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

This is rather the equivalent of finding the documents of Operation Northwoods. Documents showing government criminality.

 

Bullshit. It's a legitimate observation on his part that many Leftists have been all too eager to validate for everyone. Many Leftists are indeed fine with killing off the Jews, whether it be their champions in Congress, such as Democrat Rashida Tlaib, or the anti-semitic ANSWERniks in the streets, or the violent Jew haters on our nation's college campuses, or the Leftists calling for Israel to cease fire or the ones pushing Hamas' propaganda on this and other Internet discussion forums.

I've been aware of the anti-semitism that has been rampant on the Left for decades, but as CNN's Jake Tapper pointed out, this has been “a real eye-opening period for a lot of people — a lot of Democrats, a lot of progressives — in terms of antisemitism on the left.” That' because a lot of Leftists, Democrats and "progressives" have either been ignorant of it, swept it under the rug or choose to deny it in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.

And of course, there are the "progressives" who are too willing to rub elbows with people they know full well are amongst the worst Jew-hating bigots on the planet:



Obviously, it's a problem from top to bottom, and while I am no fan of Jake Tapper and the LW propaganda bullhorn he works for, I have to give him credit for taking the first step in solving that problem - acknowledging the existence of the problem, not denying it.

Now that I've belabored what everyone already knows (and some futilely attempt to deny), feel free to show us where the OP posted a thread about Hamas' plan to commit genocide in Israel. I won't be holding my breath because I know you can't, even though Hamas made that plan public 25 years ago and acted on it October 7th.

 

The Palestinians that aren't extremists need to rise up against the extremists, then.

 

But the Palestinians chose the extremists in Hamas, whose central platform is the destruction of Israel, to lead them in their last election.

What gives?

 

and it's a good thing! Good vrs. Evil.

 

Perhaps the extremists number greater than 2%.

 

you'd think so....but they don't. Muslims seldom speak against any act of terrorism done by Muslims.

 

You say this, the OP says the Jewish State got a plan to ethnic cleanse Gaza. And in fact, Israel is pressuring countries to comply with their war criminal idea.

 

I got a source and you got nothing.

I got a source and you got nothing. I also proved Israel is pressuring other countries to comply with their plan. You haven't responded to that.

 

Gaza needs to be eliminated. So you view Barbarism as ethnicity? It was an action taken by the government supported by the people. It makes it a terrorist Nation. It's boundaries need to be annihilated.

 

No, it is bullshit that, as Kelso had alleged, "killing Jews is okey-dokey," with "Leftists" generally. I do not deny that anti-Semitism exists, but it is you, who is in denial, if you believe it is limited the the Left side of the political spectrum. LOL. There isn't part or the Right, that's anti-Semitic? Did you never hear of Nick Fuentes, the Holocaust denier, who dined, along with Kanye West, with ex-President Trump? Or, had you heard of the "ReAwaken America" tour?

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A “ReAwaken America” tour event scheduled to be hosted at Trump National Doral in Miami is set to feature Eric Trump, Lara Trump, other notable far-right speakers and Ian Smith—a fitness influencer who spreads antisemitic propaganda and gained notoriety after he refused to close his gym during the Covid-19 pandemic.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...antisemitic-speaker-alongside-eric-trump/amp/


And we should not neglect mentioning the other "many fine people" on the Right, who are openly anti-Semitic.

So Kelso's charging this, as though it were a "Leftist" thing, just as you do, in backing him up, is bullshit. The OP's antipathy towards Israel is no more representative of the view of the Left, than is the attitude of Rep. Tlaib, who you cite:

Those "Leftists calling for Israel to cease fire," include President Biden and Secretary of State Tony Blinken, though they are calling it a "pause." If you are alleging that they are "okey-dokey" with "killing off the Jews," or even that they are just anti-Semites, then it is you, who has gone over the deep end.

Just because one does not see eye-to-eye with Benjamin Netanyahu, does not make one an anti-Semite. Nor does one's saying that Israel is not respecting the Geneva Conventions, about minimizing civilian casualties; that is a blatantly obvious fact, in the eyes of most of the world. It is the judgement of the person who denies this, which is questionable, and seems highly prejudiced.

I am glad to compare precedents to show you that 9,000 civilian deaths in three weeks is excessive, if you care to debate the facts, instead of throwing around charges of anti-Semitism. The measure of this, is not whether or not one agrees with some Israeli policy, such as the expansion of illegal settlements, in the West Bank. There are, I would point out, even some Israeli Jews, who object to this, not to mention the world International community, including the United States. So your including in your list of anti-Semites, anyone who feels that Israel's current campaign has been reckless in regard to collateral casualties, is an interesting bit of hyperbole. This desire for a cessation in the fighting, to provide humanitarian aid, comes out of a respect for human life-- even Palestinian life-- not out of "anti-Semitism."

 

Israel is also backed by foreign states.

Palestine is actually on a FAR and FAR bigger threat to be wiped out. Israel is making the existence of their country impossible by colonizing their land in the WB. This is a flat out war crime, and this is military backed up by foreign nations to do that. And now the Jewish State is planning to ethnic cleanse all of Gaza. Any rational observer can see that Israel is actually doing what it screams this is happening to them.

 

There is no proportionality in what Israel does. It's just genocidal. That Jewish State has now killed more children than your random conflict in 2022 by miles. It also has massacred the most UN employees by a long shot. And now that same Jewish State has planned to ethnic cleanse millions of Arabs. And the west is shrugging it off. The only explanation is the ethnic connection why they are doing this, and so consider Arabs 2nd class when international law applies.

 

Indeed. And you're not hearing western governments react to the equivalent of the Hamas Charter.
And that says enough, while they keep of giving a massive amounts of weapons to that Jewish State.

 

Israel has sat where it is for a long time. There is no way to say that Israel would have occupied Gaza in an alternate history in which foreign states didn't use Gaza to wage war (both conventional at times, and unconventional continuously) on it.

The fact is that not only is the Israeli target of the operation a foreign backed militia, but 2 more foreign backed militias are firing upon them, and amassing on their border. For anyone trying to advise on how to disarm Hamas, and who is trying to save as many innocents as possible, the presence of these foreign actors is not helpful. Now we don't have all the time in the world to set up a defensive position to ensure our safety from future Hamas attacks. Now we are under an undue time constraint to reduce Hamas capability so as to be prepared to defend against other forces' attacks.

Forces, by the way, that are acting in the same "imperialist" manner that everyone complained the US was doing. Using military force to install their puppets in Iraq. Then expanding their militias into Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen.

You guys got what you argued for in the ME. The US is down to a very small footprint in Syria and NW Iraq (which are under fire). And now you have another imperialist power, Iran, with a military footprint that far exceeds the US's, in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, and Yemen. Commercial shipping out of the Straight of Hormuz is being regularly harassed by Iranian navy and drones. Congratulations, the ME is so much better...

 

Would you apply this "logic" to sanction a bombing of the Russian populace-- because it is the citizens' responsibility to "rise up" and overthrow Putin, and any other extremist who takes power?

Please see the rest of my reply, below-- as your opinions clearly would benefit from having more information (and from getting a sounder thinking through).

Which was in 2006. Hamas captured the majority, from the Fatah party, with 44% support-- and hasn't held another election, since. Suspension of elections, is not generally indicative of a government that truly represents its people. It is not reasonable to hold accountable the current citizens, for an election result (a choice by less than half the people) 17 years ago-- especially since half of the population in Gaza, is under 18 years old.

The official Israeli spokesperson, I recently heard, said of Hamas, that they are, "not a democratic government, but a brutal, authoritarian regime." So then, obviously, those subject to the rule of these undemocratic tyrants, could not also be held responsible for their behavior. You can't have it both ways.

 

The US is down with a massive footprint all over the ME. They got military bases in numerous countries, and got a massive fleet there as well. They flood the ME with a massive influx of weapons. To label this as "very small footprint" is a utter joke. What the US is doing is imperialism. Israel is a terrorist state with their plans to ethnic cleanse Gaza, and is backed up by foreign ex colonial powers as well as the US with it's massive footprint in the ME. One in 10 Israeli's are American citizens with a dual passport, and specifically those Israeli's are Jews who play a massive roll in ethnic cleansing the West Bank for the sake to colonize it. And all the crap that you are accusing that Arabs want to do, is actually what the Jews are up to backed up by foreign proxies. With that I do not deny how Hamas is funded. But I do paint the picture that the kettle is blacker.

 

I know the last elections were held in 2006, and if elections were held today polls conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research indicate that the results would be much the same, with the Palestinians choosing the extremists in Hamas, whose central platform is the destruction of Israel, to lead them. The recent student council elections at Birzeit and al Najah universities are consistent with this, as well.

 

Your source did not back up your claim.

 

Nothing is blacker than Hamas and Hezbullah.

 

My claim was that the IDF helps out settlers murder civilians. And I posted an example how settlers accompanied with the IDF enter a Arab town in the West Bank to let a settler murder an Arab.

 

the Jewish state kills the most children and UN employees. It also is actively busy with a "from the river to the see, Israel will be free" and is pressuring countries to comply. With that, the fascist Jewish homeland is the darkest of all.

 

Damn right I would.

 

And that claim is false.

 

Those claims are also false. There is no Jewish state. Israel is and has been free fir decades. It is a Constitutional Republic. There is no church of Israel. You obviously hate the nation of Israel and its citizens. And keep posting the same nonsense ad infinitum.