Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    It's on Israel. Hamas is just a response to Jewish fascist oppression / colonization of Palestine through policies of the Jewish State where the IDF is not used for some "defense".
     
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    That is absurd. Hamas by their actions is responsible for all deaths in Gaza.
     
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    Hamas is the aggressor. They are responsible.
     
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    It's on Israel. Hamas is just a response to Jewish fascist oppression / colonization of Palestine through policies of the Jewish State where the IDF is not used for some "defense". We can all look back to when Hamas was created and why.


    Point stands. The Jewish state kills far more children and UN workers than Hamas. The kettle really is far darker.
    You're free to post numbers. So far you're just whining, derailing and deflecting and so conceding.
     
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    Israeli Jews are the aggressor for invading Palestine to colonize it helped by the military. And you are not disputing that Hamas is the response to that and so are conceding. The leader of Hamas are like so many in Gaza the descendants of Arab civilians who the Jews ethnically cleansed from their homes for the sake they could wipe their towns and cities of the map and build Jewish towns on top of their ruins. It's all on them. And now the cat is out of the bag that Israeli Jews are planning to violently ethnically cleanse the Arab civilians out of Gaza.

    Point stands. The Jewish state kills far more children and UN workers than Hamas. The kettle really is far darker.
    You're free to post numbers. So far you're just whining, derailing and deflecting and so conceding.
     
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    It Israeli government and the IDF command don't care about Israeli or Palestinian lives and have no qualms about blowing up Israeli hostages on Israeli land:

    Here we have anti-zionist Jews being beaten up
    https://twitter.com/TorahJudaism/status/1719741630763159672

    And here we have the words spoken by a resident stating that the IDF deliberately blowing up Israeli civilian hostages
    "Tuval Escapa, a member of the security team for Kibbutz Be’eri, set up a hotline to coordinate between kibbutz residents and the Israeli army.

    He told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that as desperation began to set in, “the commanders in the field made difficult decisions – including shelling houses on their occupants in order to eliminate Hamas fighters along with the hostages.”
     
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    Hamas is the symptom, not the disease. The disease is the how Palestinians have been treated for so many years by the Israeli Government. Everything is going according to Netanyahu's plan...
     
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    The 3 Palestinians were murdered by settlers in the west bank. Try and get something right in your desperation
     
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    The 3 were killed by the settlers AS confirmed by the IDF.
     
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    You try to cloud the issue. October 7th....that is the issue. There is a job to do. Get'er done. Stop with the distractions please!
     
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    Wow! Another word salad!! It seems to say we cannot judge a society by who they elect. Well can we judge a society by their lack of dissidents? Are there any Palestinians from Gaza protesting the actions of their government on October 7th? If there are, it should be made known.
     
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    The topic of this threat is that Jewish state made a plan to go ethnically cleanse Arab civilians for being Arab.
    This simply is a war crime, and no October 7th "issue" is an excuse to go commit war crimes.
    To call a "war crime"... a "job to do" only shows how much you support the Jewish state is going for war crimes.
    Thanks for sharing.
     
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    There never has been a nation called Palestine.

    You have no point.
     
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    Hamas again uses innocent human shields.
     
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    Israel has driven peace talks fir decades. Hamas isn’t interested in peace. They are only interested in destroying the Constitutional Republic of Israel.
     
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    That’s BS. There is no evidence for that claim.
     
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    The house was surrounded. None of the occupants were going anywhere. The IDF had no concerns about blowing up the Israeli hostages
     
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    Under what conditions did all this occur? You have no understanding of this incident.
     
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    Now you are making things up.
     
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    Which is exactly why Netanyahu wanted them in power. It guaranteed that a 2-state solution never occured. That is the exact reason Netanyahu propped them up.
     
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    A few specific applications of international law that Israel should observe ( but undoubtably won't):

    https://www.cfr.org/article/what-international-law-has-say-about-israel-hamas-war

    "Israel has fundamental legal obligations to abide by during its campaign against Hamas. Heavily charged statements by some Israeli officials need to be separated from sound legal policy. In brief, Israel must meet several standards:

    • "It must not use starvation (including deprivation of food, water, and other essentials for survival) of Gaza’s civilian population as a weapon of war against Hamas or for any reason.
    • It must take every possible step to target only Hamas militants and their military infrastructure, and to minimize civilian casualties and the destruction of civilian infrastructure
      • The Israeli air and artillery campaign, as well as its ground warfare, must be guided by the immutable legal principles of humanity, distinction, proportionality, and military necessity.
      • It must allow for the return of displaced civilians after the conflict. While a temporary evacuation of civilians from a theater of combat can be legally requested, it would be unlawful to permanently displace the civilian population from their homes.
      • The circumstances in Gaza today create enormous hardship for hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians, and Israel should take measures to ameliorate these difficult conditions.

      • "The visits of U.S. President Joe Biden and U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to the Middle East this week focused in part on what Israel and other nations and organizations can do to address the humanitarian plight of Palestinians in Gaza."
     
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    Netanyahu propped up Hamas? That’s ridiculous.
     
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    This is being overly picayune, on your part. I contend that Kelso's comment was intended as an indictment, specifically of "the Left." That was the purpose of his inclusion of the words "and other Leftists." If you don't think I can fill a post with other quotes of Kelso, to support this argument, you are welcome to choose that point, as the hill upon which you make your argument's primary stand. It should be noted, however, that you make this discrimination between the Left & Right yourself, in this very post, I am answering:


    For clarification, just so in paraphrasing your near rant, above, I am not accused of misrepresenting your meaning: do you take that:above: to be an equal depiction of anti-Semitism, on both sides of the political spectrum? Because it seems clear to me, that you intend to present the Left, as being the main repository of anti-Semitic sentiment. If that is so, does it not seem to you disingenuous, for you to be insinuating of me, the twisting of another's words to present a "false" narrative-- if you would completely endorse that narrative?

    If you did not find the Charlottesville demonstrators, chanting "the Jews will not replace us!" as "eye-opening," it is because anti-Semitism on the Right is already well known. To go back a bit, this is from a 1961 article:

    <Snip>
    Today, right-fundamentalism spans a broad spectrum. At one pole, with its passionate thousands, is the “hate” right, led by the Conde McGinleys, Gerald L. K. Smiths, Admiral Crommelins, Father Terminellos, John Kaspers, and George Rockwells, who offer
    various combinations of anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, and anti-Negro sentiment
    <End Snip>

    https://www.commentary.org/articles/alan-westin/the-john-birch-society/


    And this is from a more recent source:

    <Snip>
    Today, complex social change, including anxiety about globalization, economic inequality, the COVID-19 pandemic, and changing demographics, has inspired a resurgence of bigotry, scapegoating, and mistrust. For some, including prominent conservative leaders surrounding former President Donald Trump, the Jewish community once again became the “globalists” responsible for complex social change. As Trump rallied behind the slogan “America First,” echoing prominent anti-Semites during World War II, his words found power in the alt-right and hate groups like the Ku Klux Klan, QAnon, and the Proud Boys. He stood mute as prominent journalists were attacked for their Jewishness, trafficking stereotypes in the media and among his own supporters, and condoned violence in Charlottesville as mobs of white men marched chanting “You will not replace us.”
    <End Snip>

    https://www.gale.com/primary-source...dicalism/collections/history-of-anti-semitism


    This is not to say that there are not anti-Semites, on the Left, but only that this sentiment is not so prominently institutionalized, with such a long history of organized hatred. Of course, though, among the most ardent of Palestinian supporters, there has always been anti-Israel, and so anti-Jewish sentiment. Likewise, among a portion of the Jewish community, has always existed a strain of anti-Islamic sentiment.

    The reason why it might have seemed startling to some, seeing it on the Left, would've only be due to misassumptions, that it did not exist there, at all. It has not, however, been "eye-opening," as far as demonstrating that anti-Semitism is worse on the Left, than on the Right. By clear implication, this is your argument's central, and most salient, fiction.

    Once again, however, if you would like to make this point, the axis of your argument's attack, then please supply
    mainstream, concurring opinions, to back up *your own mis-presentations of others' words & sentiments. Did Jake Tapper really agree with your sentiment, that anti-Semitism resides predominantly on the Left? Somehow, I strongly doubt this. Actually, let me restate that, as it was not your main implication, in the post of yours I am about to quote; you had, rather, presented Tapper as having expressed the sentiment: many leftists are...fine with killing off Jews--

    Talon said: ↑
    Bullshit. It's a legitimate observation on his part <Tapper's> that many Leftists have been all too eager to validate for everyone. Many Leftists are indeed fine with killing off the Jews, whether it be their champions in Congress, such as Democrat Rashida Tlaib, or the anti-semitic ANSWERniks in the streets, or the violent Jew haters on our nation's college campuses,...

    <End Quote Snip>

    What was that word, again, for putting words into others' mouths?
     
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    But contrary to the topic, there was an effort to cleanse Israeli civilians on Oct. 7th who were not a threat to anyone. Now on topic.....If these ethnic civilians are being used as shields by the "Ethnic Hamas" they are in grave danger. The commonality to their ethnicity has nothing to do with their "cleansing". They are not being "cleansed" due to their ethnicity. They are being cleansed because of the dirty acts they committed. Now they are hiding under hospitals like true heroes of the Palestinian cause.
     
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    Actually the name was given to the inhabitants of the area as a slight on the Jews that resided there. Arafat just used the term to create a "legendary nation " of Arabs. You are right. It was never a nation.
     
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