Israeli police announced they will arrest hundreds of Palestinian citizens of Israel for protesting

Yeah, a pox on all Jewish settlers. Agree
And most Israelis would agree with that.
But settlers are just exploiting the war situation.
There's about 700,000 Jews driven out of Muslim countries after 1948. I
believe there's THREE Jews left in Iraq - probably watching their backs.
And I don't think any of these 700,000 were told to leave by their Rabis,
as Palestinians were told to do by their Jerusalem Mufti.

There's three events which drove the Gaza war that I know of
1 - attacks on worshipers on the temple mount
2 - civic issues over property for some Arab families in Jerusalem
3 - attacks on some Jewish kids

only

1 - the 'worshipers' were rioters, out to cause harm
2 - the civic issues I can't comment on - sounds sus
3 - three teenagers were abducted and murdered by Hamas

The IDF targeted Hamas, not Gazans.
the following were killed

Bassem Issa, the commander of Hamas’s Gaza City Brigade;
Jamaa Tahla, the head of its cyber command and responsible for improving the accuracy of the group’s rockets;
Jamal Zabeda, the head of research and special projects in its munitions productions department;
Hazzem Hatib, Hamas’s chief engineer in its munitions department were all killed in the strikes, the Shin Bet says.
Sami Radwan, who leads Hamas’s technical intelligence department, and Walid Smali, who was in charge of industrial equipment for the group’s weapons production department.
“In addition, 10 other operatives from Hamas’s weapons production and research and development department were killed,” the Shin Bet say

this is from Jpost I think, can't remember.

Collateral damage was about four civilians for every Hamas operative.
Coming from Hamas cowards who hide behind women and children, in the densest place on earth, that's not bad.
Pretty impressive that this tiny strip can have more of a military than my country Australia.

Rome destroyed an entire nation to get two brothers
WWII bombing firestormed entire cities to take out a few factories.
Hamas plans to kill ten million Jews to get a few Zionists.

 

Why do Jews think it's because they're Jewish?

That line's wearing thin and antisemitic because it's giving Jews a bad name.

If it's because they're Jewish, then PRC China and Russia must be Jewish too, since we sanctioned them.
South Africa, they were Jewish too I suppose.

Weak argument playing the Jew Card.

 

Can you define the term 'apartheid' ?????

 

Yes @Pisa She tried that nonsense with me too, and the answer is; when Human Rights Watch finally steps up and labels it (even though it's been going on for over 70 years)... Then you can say without a doubt that it's an apartheid state.

I would have thought Israeli courts using the IDF to force Palestinians to leave their homes for waiting Jewish settlers to steal it from them would be a clue!

 

It's not just settlers who exploit the situation. The Israeli Jews voted in a government that organizes this in their name, decade after decade.

It didn't happen. And I probably discussed this with you before.
Israel paid Morocco something like 100 bucks a head, for Jewish Moroccans to leave.
Israel arranged Iraqi Jews to fly out of Iraq. Same with Jemen.
And there were no Algerian Jews, since they were all French citizens.
They had to go back home with their fellow white French citizens when Algeria became independent.

All in all... it's just an anti-Arab trope that you imply.

I don't care what you think. I can prove something else.

It's nr 2. Hamas even said so.

When +700,000 Arabs want their properties back which was stolen 70 years ago its a no because they are Arab.
When some Jews want their property back because iffy century old documents say so... Israel sys sure... you're Jews so lets have a look.

Of course, you won't comment on it.
Let's not start the discussion that the Jews brought this up on themselves with the clear racism that they inflict on Arabs which part of the violent oppression.

And in the end. Jews kill far more Palestinians, then Palestinians kill Jews as a whole.
Americans used the term baby killers for their own troops who were at it.
The label fits here perfectly.

 

Wikipedia
Apartheid was a system of institutionalised racial segregation that existed in South Africa and
South West Africa (now Namibia) from 1948 until the early 1990s.

1 - who in Israel is racially segregated more than anywhere else in the world?
2 - is having 'two states' a form of apartheid?
3 - would you agree that apartheid is creeping back onto American campuses?

 

No wonder

Wikipedia
Before the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine vote, Iraq's prime minister Nuri al-Said told
British diplomats that if the United Nations solution was not "satisfactory", "severe measures should
[would?] be taken against all Jews in Arab countries".

 

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/operation-ezra-and-nehemia-the-airlift-of-iraqi-jews
Operation Ezra & Nehemiah, also known as Operation Ali Baba, was the airlift of more than 120,000 Jews from Iraq


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Plan
The One Million Plan (Hebrew: תוכנית המיליון‎;Tochnit hamillion) was a strategic plan for the immigration and absorption of one million Jews from Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa into Mandatory Palestine


All you got is an Anti-Arab trope.
You Zionists use that to always deflect away that the Jews ethnically cleansed +700,000 Arabs civilians.
And where Israel grands Jews the right to kick out Arabs,
it arranged that Arabs can not kick out Jews.

That is the reason why this war started.
Israel and it's Jews were simply at it again.

 

No wonder

Wikipedia
After the establishment of Israel, the conditions for Jews in Morocco worsened due to increasing
terrorism in the country and the hostile attitude of the Jews by the local population. Morocco's
worsening conditions for the Jews acted as a catalyst to encourage migration to Israel

 

No wonder
Wikipedia

After Algeria gained its independence in 1962, it passed the Nationality Code in 1963, depriving non-Muslims
of citizenship. This law extended citizenship only to those individuals whose fathers and paternal grandfathers
were Muslim. 95% of the country's 140,000-strong indigenous Jewish population went into exile after the passage
of the law. Approximately 130,000 Jews left Algeria. Moroccan Jews who were living in Algeria and Jews from the
M'zab Valley in the Algerian Sahara, who did not have French citizenship, as well as a small number of Algerian
Jews from Constantine, also emigrated to Israel at that time.
By 1969, fewer than 1,000 Jews were still living in Algeria. By 1975 the government had seized all but one of the
country's synagogues and converted them to mosques or libraries.

Saying these poor people weren't Jews because they were French is rather stupid.
All these Jews have right of return. All have right to compensation. All 700,000 of them. All Jews have rights to
the nations that drove them out - including Portugal where one of my ancestors came from.

 

https://israeled.org/operation-yachin-begins-bringing-jews-from-morocco/
Israel launches Operation Yachin to enable members of the 2,000-year-old Moroccan Jewish community to make aliyah. By the time the operation ends in 1964, more than 97,000 Jews emigrate from Morocco via France or Italy, although some settle in France, Canada or the United States instead of Israel.

The operation, named for one of the pillars of Solomon’s Temple, follows an understanding reached between Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion and Moroccan King Hassan II. To compensate Morocco for the loss of valuable community members, Israel agrees to pay $500,000, plus $100 per emigrant for the first 50,000 Moroccan Jews who leave and $250 for each additional emigrant. The New York-based Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society contributes $50 million toward the expense of Yachin.


And so nobody got ethnically cleansed

 

Your source says....
Algeria won its independence in 1962, and by the Nationality Code of 1963 denied citizenship to all non-Muslims. Algeria's Jews, most of whom had been entitled to French citizenship since 1870, left with the pied-noirs. The vast majority moved to France, and the rest moved to Israel. Those who remained resided mostly in Algiers, while some settled in Blida, Constantine, and Oran.



And so nobody got ethnically cleansed.

 

Maybe Israelis and Jews are fighting?
Did Israelis (many are multi-ethnic) send 4,300 rockets at the Jews?
Did Israelis kidnap and murder three teenagers?
Did Israelis start a riot on the Jewish temple mount?
Maybe Israelis should give back IDF prisoners and bodies of those they murdered?
Are Israelis tunneling under the Jews?

Of course, Hamas does this. And it will keep doing it till the Jews leave. Of course,
the Jews won't leave. So there's tons of controversy yet to come.
Yes, there were huge programs to take Jews out of countries of persecution, after
1948 many Jews were murdered, or deprived of citizenship, blamed for Israel, lost
their jobs, had to leave their property behind.
Just the property alone, now in Arab hands, needs to compensated for. That would
be a start. Or better still, right of return for these 700,000 Jews.

 

Ah... ethnically cleansed is when you don't like the war, or the riots, or the loss of employment
or citizenship or someone is going to kill you. What applies to Arabs must apply to Jews.

 

We're discussing why this war started, and not about 2014 when 3 Israeli's who got killed in Palestina while they should have been in Israel.
And this war started because the Jews were at it again, busy with kicking out Arabs with a racist law backing them up that Arabs can't use.

You're just deflecting away why this war started, because you can not defend the vile racist oppression that Israel inflicts on Arabs.

I just sourced that there wasn't any ethnic cleansing going on.
So Jews do not have that right to return. And you're going on with deflecting with an anti Arab trope.

 

Who's sources? Jews or Arabs?
I saw a photo the other day of Jews trapped on the second floor of a building in Baghdad, terrified to come
down as angry mobs swarmed in the streets below. Kind of chilling.
Remember this - one Jew, after the Munich Massacre said of the Arabs, "What they do to us today they
will do to you tomorrow." I decided to hold that thought, I was young and maybe one day I would see if he was
right.
And just now, this headline


Bombers aim for buses in new tactic to spread death and fear in Afghanistan (msn.com)

Bombing buses was an old Hamas trick. Until the Jews put up a fence.

 

I gave the sources. Seems you can't even be bothered to look.
All for the sake to deflect away how Jews were at it again and so started this war.

Has nothing to do with how Jews were at it again and so started this war.

 

Except the Jews weren't ethnically cleansed. I sourced it. It is just a anti-Arab trope.
And you now make a racist argument of since Jews were supposedly ethnically cleansed (when they were not), means Jews got a right to ethnically cleanse Arabs. The argument itself is utterly racist. It's not as if Arabs can just go get money from random Jews, since Berny Madoff -a Jew- is the biggest thieve the world has ever known.... but that's your way of thinking.

And all this is just purely ment to not discuss how the Jews were at it again and started a war.

 

I am not well read on this. Has Israel ever offered full equal citizenship within Israel to all Palestinians? So they can vote and participate equally in Israeli society?

If they have not then I don't see how you could view Israel as on the moral high ground. Palestinians would be second class citizens and essentially kept prisoner.

I think the core of the problem here is religion/racism and the insistance that Israel be and remain "Jewish" instead of a secular state not prioritizing any religion or lineage over any other.

 

So you believe the Arabs, I believe the Jews.
I say the Jews are a tad more believable. Notice how this UNRWA guy was dismissed for not
promoting the Hamas position on the conflict re Israel's precision weapons (no mention of the
4,300 indiscriminate weapons of Hamas)

Look up the Grand Mufti - like those in Iran and ISIS, he pursued violent policy in God's name.
Inciter of two major riots and the Hebron massacre.
Personal friend of Hitler and Himmler
Supported by the Third Reich in Jerusalem
Looked for the promise of Hitler to destroy utterly the Jews in Palestine
Spoke often on Radio Berlin during the war.
Was a major inciter of the 1948 conflict
Called upon Arabs to not stay one day under Jewish rule.

Believe him if you like.


The end of 2,600 years of Jewish presence in Iraq
The Farhud: The Massacre that Ended Iraq's 2,600-Year-Old Jewish Community? | Honest Reporting

 

I'm not even using an Arab source.
And of course you find Jews a tad more believable.... since you favor a country where Jews are able to kick out Arabs with iffy century old papers. While +700,000 Arabs are not able to do the same because of their ethnic background.

Well, you don't need to look up Berny Madoff. Just look up Mozes. His god killed innocent babies in Egypt. And than the Jews went to Canaan, and with their Gods blessing they committed genocide. That is the foundation why Jews believe they own that land and ethnically cleansed +700,000 Arabs back than. It is why those Arabs can not go to court and get their property back. It is why Jews are able to go to court, attempting to kick out Arabs living outside Israel. It's why the latest war started. A war where Jews end up killing more children than Hamas kills combined. Killing children again... it's going full circle.

 

I don't buy that Muslims are evil and Israel hasn't got to be stopped.

Boycott helped bring about change in South Africa, bombs helped bring about the end of the Third Reich.

Hamas aren't terrorists, Israel are.

 

What an idiot.

So Jewish settlers or the state of Israel have a right to steal land and ethnic cleanse?

From before the State of Israel to today, from the 1940's to 2021, Israel's reign of terror has been allowed to go unchecked.

Whenever Israel break the law, they don't even get a slap on the wrist.

 

Zionism failed.

It was an experiment and it failed and now Israel needs to be black listed and boycotted for what they've done to Palestine.

 

Islamophobia isn't a reason to deny people human rights and dignity.

There is no dignity in Israel forcefully evicting a family because some Jew showed up and claimed they owned their house.

First of all, the international community doesn't recognise Israeli authority over that jurisdiction; and Palestinians don't have the right to appeal or make a claim against a Jewish Family... It's provoking Hamas too showing Israel to be the aggressor.

So Israel needs to be stopped by any means necessary, Hamas need smarter weapons so they can target the Knesset.

If Hamas attacks Israel, that's self defence, when Israel attack Gaza, that's a war crime.